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    Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    I have a 2015 Cayman with a Cobb Accessport OTS 93 Stage 1 tune and the Fabspeedicon TrackTec Valvetronic exhaust. I have right around 50k miles on my car, and and I would upgrade to a 911 if my car weren't so heavily optioned exactly how I wanted it ($25k in options).

    I don't think I'm ready to take the leap to add a TPCicon Turbo kit or do an engine swap, but what are the best routes to take to squeeze some more power out of this base Cayman?

    - IPD Plenum?
    - Headers ?
    - Pro Tune rather than OTS map?

    Any other suggestions? I'd really love to get to the point where I have similar acceleration and HP to a Cayman S.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by darcus View Post
    I have a 2015 Cayman with a Cobb Accessport OTS 93 Stage 1 tune and the Fabspeedicon TrackTec Valvetronic exhaust. I have right around 50k miles on my car, and and I would upgrade to a 911 if my car weren't so heavily optioned exactly how I wanted it ($25k in options).

    I don't think I'm ready to take the leap to add a TPCicon Turbo kit or do an engine swap, but what are the best routes to take to squeeze some more power out of this base Cayman?

    - IPD Plenum?
    - Headers ?
    - Pro Tune rather than OTS map?

    Any other suggestions? I'd really love to get to the point where I have similar acceleration and HP to a Cayman S.
    You already have the exhaust, so headers and a Fabspeed Pro tune will give you the best bang for the buck IMO. I had my headers installed first, and Im running the same exhaust as you originally with the Cobb OTS stage 2 tune on my S and the Pro tune made a huge difference for me. Best $250 I almost didn't spend because I didn't think it would be that noticeable, but boy was I wrong!

    You could always try and see what they can unlock for you now with the Pro tune since they are very reasonably priced, but it will need to be done again if you add headers or other hardware later on.
    Last edited by ICNU; 03-03-2017 at 05:44 AM.
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Headers and protune, but you're not going to see another 50 horsepower sadly. About half of that number is realistic.
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by darcus View Post
    I have a 2015 Cayman with a Cobb Accessport OTS 93 Stage 1 tune and the Fabspeedicon TrackTec Valvetronic exhaust. I have right around 50k miles on my car, and and I would upgrade to a 911 if my car weren't so heavily optioned exactly how I wanted it ($25k in options).

    I don't think I'm ready to take the leap to add a TPCicon Turbo kit or do an engine swap, but what are the best routes to take to squeeze some more power out of this base Cayman?

    - IPD Plenum?
    - Headers ?
    - Pro Tune rather than OTS map?

    Any other suggestions? I'd really love to get to the point where I have similar acceleration and HP to a Cayman S.
    I would do all of the above in pretty much that order. All your mod's plus the pro-tune should give you right around 45-50HP over stock at the crank and 35-40 at the wheels. I'm doing all these to my BS...minus the cobb/protune which will have to wait for year end bonus.
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICNU View Post
    You already have the exhaust, so headers and a Fabspeedicon Pro tune will give you the best bang for the buck IMO. I had my headers installed first, and Im running the same exhaust as you originally with the Cobb OTS stage 2 tune on my S and the Pro tune made a huge difference for me. Best $250 I almost didn't spend because I didn't think it would be that noticeable, but boy was I wrong!

    You could always try and see what they can unlock for you now with the Pro tune since they are very reasonably priced, but it will need to be done again if you add headers or other hardware later on.
    did Fabspeed provide your pro tune based off of Cobb Access Port data log or was it done with your car on a dyno?

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    That is the beauty of having the Cobb Accessport vs. some of the other tuning methods. The custom tune can be done remotely by using data logs from your car sent by email to the Fabspeedicon guys, who then create a custom tune and send it back to load on the car. No trip to to the dyno needed and far less cost, and you can easily update again if you make any other changes in the future. The local Cobb dyno tuners in my area I contacted wanted 4 to 5 times the cost to do the custom tune.

    Fabspeed will provide all the specific instructions for how they need the log files to be obtained along with a questionnaire form to fill out regarding the specific details of your car and any modifications as well as what the car is used for. You send them the logs along with the paperwork and they send you a custom tune back shortly thereafter.
    Last edited by ICNU; 03-03-2017 at 03:30 PM.
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    My mods: M&M headers, Fabspeed exhaust with Fabspeed Protune tune, Zunsport grill, GT4 rear diffuser, carbon rear wing and side vents, carbon front splitter, H&R sport springs, X-pel wrap

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Has anyone seen a dyno chart anywhere for a base 2.7 Cayman with headers+stock exhaust or headers+stock exhaust+tune? Been trying to track down that info for a while.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by VariousCheeses View Post
    Has anyone seen a dyno chart anywhere for a base 2.7 Cayman with headers+stock exhaust or headers+stock exhaust+tune? Been trying to track down that info for a while.
    I have it in the works.... Probably 1 more week 'till I'm back in town with time...
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    I live about an hour north of Fabspeedicon. I talked to them today and I think I'm going to do the IPD Plenum, Race Headers, Air Filters, and ProTune. Since my car's a 2015 with 50k miles, I would lose tons on a trade in, so I might as well upgrade it as much as possible.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by barcuri View Post
    I have it in the works.... Probably 1 more week 'till I'm back in town with time...
    Just saw this. Hope you post a thread on it.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    I don't think 50 hp will be possible. Most realistic would be about half that. Do a dyno run with your mods once done and you will find out the answer.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Yah 50 is not a reality. The 3.4 S models, that are already handicapped, have been proven to get 42 more on a posted dyno, and maybe 5 more with a well executed protune. The 2.7 is already in a higher state of tune, so 25 is probably a realistic number to achieve. Good luck, hopefully you can get a little more.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by darcus View Post
    I have a 2015 Cayman with a Cobb Accessport OTS 93 Stage 1 tune and the Fabspeedicon TrackTec Valvetronic exhaust. I have right around 50k miles on my car, and and I would upgrade to a 911 if my car weren't so heavily optioned exactly how I wanted it ($25k in options).

    I don't think I'm ready to take the leap to add a TPCicon Turbo kit or do an engine swap, but what are the best routes to take to squeeze some more power out of this base Cayman?

    - IPD Plenum?
    - Headers ?
    - Pro Tune rather than OTS map?

    Any other suggestions? I'd really love to get to the point where I have similar acceleration and HP to a Cayman S.
    The most cost-effective way to get 50 more horsepower from a base Cayman is to sell it and buy a Cayman S. Plus, when you feel the need for a few more ponies in a year or so, you can do all those things you mentioned...

    Seriously, the Cayman S the power difference is much more usable and noticeable than what you get when tweaking a smaller motor. The S will have more torque and increased power across the full rpm range, whereas those tweaks will mostly be felt at the top end. If you're in 2.7 liter racing class, do those. If not, get the S. The price difference is less than the cost of those mods and labor......
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    I agree with inka on the Cayman S 100%. There is no substitute for displacement, and in this case it is .7 liters. This is a lot more of an upgrade than the .4 liters you get when you upgrade from a 3.4 to the 3.8.
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTS524 View Post
    did Fabspeedicon provide your pro tune based off of Cobb Access Port data log or was it done with your car on a dyno?
    My sales rep at Fabspeed told me that at this point they have so much data that they already have a map for most combinations of their parts on these cars and that for the mods I'm doing for my 2.7L 981, they already have a map.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by inkatouring View Post
    The most cost-effective way to get 50 more horsepower from a base Cayman is to sell it and buy a Cayman S. Plus, when you feel the need for a few more ponies in a year or so, you can do all those things you mentioned...

    Seriously, the Cayman S the power difference is much more usable and noticeable than what you get when tweaking a smaller motor. The S will have more torque and increased power across the full rpm range, whereas those tweaks will mostly be felt at the top end. If you're in 2.7 liter racing class, do those. If not, get the S. The price difference is less than the cost of those mods and labor......
    Understood, but I paid $75k for the car knew, and would probably lose roughly half that on a trade it at this point. So from a holistic viewpoint, upgrading to an S right now wouldn't necessarily save me money. My car is my DD and his has tons of options and since I don't want a 718 I plan to keep it for quite some time. I eventually expect it to become weekend car. Since it's my first Porsche, it has a special place in my heart and I'd have a hard time getting rid of it.

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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by darcus View Post
    Understood, but I paid $75k for the car knew, and would probably lose roughly half that on a trade it at this point. So from a holistic viewpoint, upgrading to an S right now wouldn't necessarily save me money. My car is my DD and his has tons of options and since I don't want a 718 I plan to keep it for quite some time. I eventually expect it to become weekend car. Since it's my first Porsche, it has a special place in my heart and I'd have a hard time getting rid of it.

    My first real girlfriend was in high school. She was blonde and beautiful (became a somewhat successful actress, still working -- and not based on her talent -- in her 40s) and great gal otherwise. So good she dumped me and upgraded. We had lunch three decades later and, well, I realized my wife (who is pretty but not as beautiful) was a better fit for me.

    Point being, your car leaves something desired or this thread wouldn't exist. Is there a used 981 S that would have more of what you want? Wouldn't it be more cost effective in the long run to get that more satisfying car? It may not be your first love, but a better one.....
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by GTS524 View Post
    did Fabspeedicon provide your pro tune based off of Cobb Access Port data log or was it done with your car on a dyno?
    for those that do not live within practical driving limits of Fabspeed's shop or currently do not have the Cobb Access Port needed for data logging the actual cost for a protune will be more like $ 1,500.00 ($ 1,295.00 for the AP + $ 250.00 for the protune).
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by VariousCheeses View Post
    Just saw this. Hope you post a thread on it.
    I have an AWD Dyno pull scheduled for Friday afternoon.
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    Re: Squeeze out another 50hp out of a Base Cayman?

    Quote Originally Posted by barcuri View Post
    I have an AWD Dyno pull scheduled for Friday afternoon.
    Awesome, looking forward to seeing the info.

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