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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Has anyone with a high mileage 981 had to replace any expensive wear and tear items, whether covered by extended warranty or otherwise? If so, what were they and how much?

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Anand View Post
    Anthing over 5k a year. The cars are fragile. Meant to be polished and kept in the garage. Take lots of pictures.
    Seriously, in my area, at the local dealers, I rarely see high mileage 911s/ Caymans/Boxsters. Service advisor told me 5k per year is pretty typical for a Boxster when I complained I wasn't driving enough. Of course I am driving even less than that. Maybe warm weather cars see more miles.
    Are you being sarcastic? These are just sports cars, not exotics. They are relatively reliable. I've only had issues with my cars in the past when I don't drive them. Yes, you can expect to pay less for a car with higher mileage, but 5k a year is absurdly low mileage for any car but an exotic. I'm assuming its because most people buy them as a second or third or fourth car so they never get driven. Which is a shame because they are so much fun to drive. That's like buying a fantastic vacation, but not going because you would rather look at the pictures than experience it. What's the point?
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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by halcyon View Post
    Are you being sarcastic? These are just sports cars, not exotics. They are relatively reliable. I've only had issues with my cars in the past when I don't drive them. Yes, you can expect to pay less for a car with higher mileage, but 5k a year is absurdly low mileage for any car but an exotic. I'm assuming its because most people buy them as a second or third or fourth car so they never get driven. Which is a shame because they are so much fun to drive. That's like buying a fantastic vacation, but not going because you would rather look at the pictures than experience it. What's the point?
    Dead serious NOT!
    Of course it is a waste to spend a bunch of money on a car and keep it in the garage. But where I live, the cars are typically low mileage. Just check out the used Porsches in the Boston, NH area. I drive mine 4-5k a year because it is a weekend car. I wish I could commute in it but if anyone is familiar with the 93/route3/128 belt around Boston, they will understand why I use my SUV for that. In fact, I am thinking of selling my car because most of time I am driving a dull SUV on highways. The BS sits in a rented garage 5 months of the year and gets driven on weekends in the warmer months when I would rather be cycling. I love the car but no time.
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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by halcyon View Post
    ... but 5k a year is absurdly low mileage for any car but an exotic. I'm assuming its because most people buy them as a second or third or fourth car so they never get driven. ... What's the point?
    My Cayman was delivered June 1st and it is a second car, I have a daily driver. This weekend it crossed 7,000 miles. What can I say? I like driving

    That said, I knew it was going to happen and I got the car nonetheless. I enjoy driving it less and less, so I guess that mileage will get lower and lower. Why? Because of WHERE I drive. Let's be honest. Driving in U.S. is horrible, way worse than any counterpart First World country you can think of. Once the first feel of everything in that car becomes more normal, I want more driving thrills. Which, in this country, you mostly get only on the racetrack. Darn ... how long until April 22nd again?!?

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Hi mileage? I once sold a MY 2000 996 C2S for a friend with over 204,000 Kms / 127,500 miles. Sure it was a 16 year old car but had been maintained well and was a blast to drive. To this day I wish I had bought it. It sold for $22K CND / $17,600 USD. What a great car and amazing bang for your buck.

    So to the OP, if the price is right and it checks out on a PPI (Pre-puchase inspection) by a reputable Porsche mechanic and you like the colour combination then why not buy it?

    P.s. These are NOT fragile cars. They were designed, built and test in some of the most harsh conditions and have an endurance lineage as long as your arm. They are built to be driven and maintained correctly will last a long time.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by StanNH View Post
    Is there a 2012 981S? Wasn't 2012 the last year for the 987?
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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    Has anyone with a high mileage 981 had to replace any expensive wear and tear items, whether covered by extended warranty or otherwise? If so, what were they and how much?
    There are a few threads here on reliability of 981. It's basically all good.

    I have 2012 981S with 50K miles on it. The only things that happen to it was one oxygen sensor replacement, and one headlight de-laminating. All replaced by the warranty.

    70K miles is kinda a lot, but it must be highway miles, and if you don't drive a lot - you'll actually offset it in the next years, so car will kind of grow in "projected price"
    I have no idea about UK pricing. But if you like the car and price looks good to you - don't worry too much about reliability. There are a lot of 987 there with way more miles than that.
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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    IMO, it's a good buy if and only if it's discounted a lot AND you don't plan to drive it more than 5k miles per year. If you get 100k mile warranty, it will cover any failures.

    I have a 2013 model and definitely have lots of reliability concerns induced by daily driving 20-25k miles per year, though it's mostly easy highway miles with little to no traffic. I think that car probably did similar type of driving to accrue 70k miles.

    Interesting to read that the rotors were replaced...I just discovered mine are wearing unevenly where an outside line exists. Probably the reason for the replacement on that car...

    Things to look out for:

    - Headlights delaminating
    - Door panels warping
    - ignition coils failing (misfire sometimes)
    - possibly worn out cats
    - slipping clutch (MT or PDK)
    - convertible top wear (headliner alignment and strings/hooks intact)
    - rock blasted front, windshield, and rocker panels
    - minor fender dents
    - underbody scraping
    - parking brake intermittently failing to set
    - yellowing auto dimming mirrors
    - seat side bolster wear
    - squeaking fuel tank when hot
    - front strut rattle/ failure
    - tires should have lots of tread or a new set will set you back $1200+
    - earlier models had seat wiring harness recall
    - wheel finish chipped, curbed, or dented wheels from potholes
    - ...keep adding stuff and suspect I left some out

    Im not sure about shocks. Hopefully they don't start leaking this early, but yea maybe if the car was driven mostly on rough roads it's always possible. You can do a body roll rest or check for nose dive on braking...should be very little.

    Fact that it's a first year new model after the redesign isn't good. Also 3 owners bit unusual.
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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    This is a tricky question.
    Pro:- the price, full service history, generally good reputation of the 981 for reliability.
    Con:- the mileage, cost of Porsche spares.

    A car which has done 70k miles in four years has been used on plenty of long journeys, which are not as harmful to the car as short stop/start trips. I see it has new brakes all round, which saves you the best part of £1k, but does the service history show clutch replacement? If not, you should budget up to £1.5k for that in the near future. You don't say if the car has PDK, but if it has I would be inclined to pass. That may be just prejudice on my part, but to rebuild a PDK transmission you are talking serious money.
    The price you quote sounds reasonable for the age/mileage, but not a 'no brainer' bargain. If you can haggle it down further it gets progressively more interesting the lower you go. As far as depreciation is concerned, it is inevitably going to be lower than you would get on a mint car at £35-40k. Ultimately it depends on how much you love the car. If you really do, then buy it, but keep £5-10k in reserve in case you are unlucky and something expensive breaks. The alternative is to add that cash to your quoted spend and find a low mileage car.

    As I said at the start, a tricky decision.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by am1985uk View Post
    This is a tricky question.
    Pro:- the price, full service history, generally good reputation of the 981 for reliability.
    Con:- the mileage, cost of Porsche spares.

    A car which has done 70k miles in four years has been used on plenty of long journeys, which are not as harmful to the car as short stop/start trips. I see it has new brakes all round, which saves you the best part of £1k, but does the service history show clutch replacement? If not, you should budget up to £1.5k for that in the near future. You don't say if the car has PDK, but if it has I would be inclined to pass. That may be just prejudice on my part, but to rebuild a PDK transmission you are talking serious money.
    The price you quote sounds reasonable for the age/mileage, but not a 'no brainer' bargain. If you can haggle it down further it gets progressively more interesting the lower you go. As far as depreciation is concerned, it is inevitably going to be lower than you would get on a mint car at £35-40k. Ultimately it depends on how much you love the car. If you really do, then buy it, but keep £5-10k in reserve in case you are unlucky and something expensive breaks. The alternative is to add that cash to your quoted spend and find a low mileage car.

    As I said at the start, a tricky decision.
    Yes, a very tricky decision. I spoke to the seller again tonight, and he reduced the price by a further £200. The price he's asking now is less than he paid for it - he apparently bought the car for himself but found it a bit too 'hard core' for his taste. The car is a PDK, and from the research I've done it seems that the PDK's reliability record is no worse than that of the rest of the machinery, so I have no particular concerns on that score.

    What to do.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    I'd expect quite a bit more than 200 off what THEY paid, unless this is some sort of collectible car.

    As for me, I'm going to go for a lower mileage 981 next month. It will cost quite a bit more, but I decided to get something that truly made me happy. I really don't want to have second thoughts about what I'm getting. Don't get something that you have to worry about. What would you rather be doing, wondering what the first repair will cost or wondering where the cops are hiding? ;-)

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    The car is a PDK, and from the research I've done it seems that the PDK's reliability record is no worse than that of the rest of the machinery, so I have no particular concerns on that score.

    What to do.
    I wasn't suggesting that the PDK box is particularly unreliable, just that it's more complex than the manual box and so will be more expensive to repair.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Just pulled the trigger on it. May God have mercy on my soul.

    You're all to blame. All of you. Damn you all ...

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Relax and enjoy!

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    Oh man...Maybe I'll be next?! Going to start the search next month.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    Just pulled the trigger on it. May God have mercy on my soul.

    You're all to blame. All of you. Damn you all ...
    Best part of Porsche ownership in my opinion? After you finished freaking out and swearing at Porsche for the money they want for their cars, after you hid it from true friends and most of the family, after you explained to everyone "Yeah, I bought it and it is just the cheapest Porsche. Really." ... after ALL that, you will find yourself thinking "Damn! This car is worth WAY more than what I paid for it!". Not that you will never EVER say that to anyone, especially not to Porsche dealership employees or Porsche surveys

    Congratulations! Cheers!


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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    So, here it is. Not bad for an old shed ....
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    Congratulations buddy, now go and enjoy yourself
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    Quote Originally Posted by spook View Post
    So, here it is. Not bad for an old shed ....
    Looks amazing. Congrats.
    Don't worry about the mileage.
    A good indy in the UK is PCT on A45 Coventry. Dm me and i can also point you towards a porsche technician who has his own garage and is excellent.

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    Re: Would you buy a High Mileage 981BS?

    My Lexus has 164k on it and runs just fine with only routine maintenance on it. It will last to 300k. Your Boxster is a better made vehicle and has extremely low mileage. It's a new world order when it comes to modern cars.

    Yes, it has more miles on it than many Porsches but so what. The previous owners liked to drive it instead of storing it in the garage. Good for them. Porsches want to be driven. They decay under a car cover.
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