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    Interior Noise Level Question

    Hello all.

    My first post here and I have one, hopefully easy, question.

    Does anyone know, or can anyone point me to a resource, how loud the cabin of the Cayman and/or Cayman S is at idle and/or highway speed?

    Failing that, a subjective comparison/evaluation of interior noise level would be of some help. I have seen replies to similar questions extolling the virtues of the engine's sound, but pretending for a moment that once in a great while I would rather listen to my John Gorka CDs with the volume turned down low what are my chances for success?

    Thanks much,

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    You are sharing a small cabin with a 3.4L flat-six motor - yes, it's insulated, but there's no getting around that it's going to be more noisy than probably what you're used to. If you're used to driving any recently made medium to high-end car, you will notice the sound. I would suggest you take some of your favorite CDs down to the dealer when you test drive the car, and see what you think - something like this is very, very subjective. Ask the dealer for a long enough test drive to be able to settle this, and any other concerns you have. Don't expect a concert-hall like sound - again, it's a small cabin, and there's a 295 HP motor right behind your head.


    I should add that I also like to listen to CDs, especially on some of the long trips I've taken in the car, and I've found that again, while it's not the vault-like concert quality of my 5-series Bimmer wagon where the music is like listening in a moving living room, it's still fine, and I'm pretty picky about music.

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    To expand a little on what beez said, the interior noise is subjective. I personally love the sound of the motor and seldom turn on the radio. In the upper torque curve (4000-6000 rpm) you can forget about hearing anything but the engine. Your CD's will be drowned out by the engine. It is a sweet, sweet sound though.

    However, at idle, the engin sound is surprisingly insulated, but certainly more noticable in other high end cars. As beez stated perfectly, you have 295 HP purring 6 inches from your head.
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    I have built numerous car audio systems and home systems and consider myself to be an audiophile. My opinion is that most of the sublties that you may be looking for are lost due to engine and road noise. Personally I do not like turning up the volume to get around cabin noise.

    Beyond that - you won't know until you take a test drive to see for yourself.


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    I dont know if anyone else has noticed this, but when I've ridden over certain asphalt surfaces the car is as quiet as a tomb. I think that the the tire noise is the primary noise in the cabin. Wind noise is minimal, and the engine sound hasn't been intrusive. I have noticed that the music via radio or cd is marginal at best because of it, but if I wanted a Lexus sound I would've looked elsewhere. I agree with the other posters re: taking your cd's with you to judge for yourself. Good luck.

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    Its pretty loud.
    Numerous times ive had people ask me if my window was rolled down while on the highway (speeds of 120kph to 180kph).

    At times I have even needed to slow down to 80kph to speak to important clients and elderly family members.

    The engine sound is not the issue, its the wind more than anything.

    Oh yeah, we have the smoothest roads in the world here (no exaggeration).

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    No louder than my Corvette was.

    And I agree, the tire noise, interacting with the pavement, seems to make the most difference.
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    Talking Welcome to the club.

    We've got pretty smooth roads here. Even to the point where our roads are built FLAT without any slant for rain run off like the gentle angle to the right on roads in most other states I have lived. I'm sure roads in other desert regions are gated flat as well.

    However, our highways vary significantly. Cement is noisy and when that road is between tall hard block wall [sound barriers for neighborhoods] it is real noisy. While asphalt is also noisy, we've started using a rubberized type of asphalt that is WONDERFUL! It is so quiet that it makes the ride seem as if one is in a dream.

    Furthermore, it is the best use of old tires I have ever seen. Now, if they'd only stop charging me for tire disposal fees when I know that my old set is going to a trusty and worthy cause--in the highways upon which I drive! However, it remains to be seen how durable rubberized asphalt is but it sure is smooth and quiet.

    As far as the wind sound, maybe you need to slow down. This weekend in Doug's CS we had no problem talking at normal levels while he tucked and turned in various corners. His CS was so quiet, even above 5,000 rpm in my opinion, that I find it hard to believe that you are posting a complaint. It was my first ride in which I actually got an idea of the CS's superior cornering ability.

    His first turn alarmed me but in short order, he was nailing them a few fold faster! Incredible cars! The ride was quieter and more comfortable than my land boat Avalon.

    That said, tires make a huge difference in road noise. You might try a smoother and strictly summer tire to cut down on noise.

    I wonder if the different tires might account for the variability in replies to this thread?

    Maybe its time for another survey?

    What type of tire do you drive?

    What types of tire have you tried on the CS?

    What type do you prefer on the CS and why?

    How noisy are your tires?
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    I think Beez got it right, take your CD on a test drive
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    My GF never complains of the noise. In fact, she prefers to hear the engine over any music.

    I have taken to listening to Mozart to curb my desire to speed. It makes me focus a little less on the driving experience. And I think without a distraction and my focus is totally on driving that I don't notice any sound at all - except the cooperative sound of the engine - it too being happy
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    Yeah it's noisy. Have to turn up the stereo more to hear the music well enough, then it's only acceptable. I'm coming from a 2005 RL which was quiet with a great sound system. I too like my tunes, but this isn't a concert hall on wheels.
    I actually think that either my car's gotten a little quieter as it's run in, or more likely I'm more used to it now. I listen to music a lot, but I LOVE the engine sound, just makes you smile. I quite often crack the window so I can hear the exhaust note better...hehe....especially as it echos around the car park - excellent.

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    Thanks for all the feedback. The video link posted by Chows4us was also helpful.

    Guess I'll need to take a test drive.

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    Yes take the test drive but do lower your expectation and save those mellow, sweet sounds for listening to in a better enviroment. Course for horses and all that.

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    Its the loudest car in the cabin I have ever owned, both in terms of road noise and engine noise. To be expected, since its a pure and uncompromising sports car, and the engine is right there with you.

    I still enjoy my music on long drives, but do crank up the stereo pretty loud. If you are driving at low revs the engine is not too bad. But the road noise is still there. We could have had a quieter car with another 40 kgs of insulation! But I bought a Porsche because I wanted the sports qualities. Otherwise by a Honda or something else quiet!

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    It's the loudest car in the cabin I have ever owned as well and I love every single decibel!

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    Quieter than the Avalon? The Avalon is a Toyota, right? It's a bit larger than the Toyota Camry?

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    Got around to doing a test drive today, as suggested by many, and the noise level was much lower than I expected.

    As that was my only reservation I'm now in the "selecting options stage". sometime in the next week to 4 months I should have a new car.

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