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    Question Cayman reliability ??????

    I love to get a used Cayman but I'm kind of depress when I see this in the net.

    ............The Cayman and the Cayman S are relatively new models, and USA Today notes that reliability may be an issue. They report that in 2006, Porsche "was near the bottom in the most recent Initial Quality Study (IQS) by consultant J.D. Power and Associates. Only Volkswagen, Land Rover, Mazda and Suzuki scored worse."

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    2008 Porsche Cayman Reliability - Best Cars & Trucks - U.S. News Rankings and Reviews

    Reliability is very important to me since I don't have too much $$$ to burn. My next choice will be a used 911 C2. Is the 2006 911 more reliable or the same as the Cayman ?


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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    JD Power rating of 9 out of 10 for the '08 not good enough?

    There weren't enough owner responses on the Cayman, but Consumer Reports found Boxster reliability to be "better than average." 911 reliability was "average", and Cayenne reliability was "much worse than average."

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I don't about everyone else, but I've had my car for 3 years and never been to the dealer for ANY mechanical defect! All I've see are some pretty minor noises which I fixed (thanks to this site). Better than any car I've ever owned.

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    '06 Cayman S, 19", 6sp, sport shift, Rear Wiper, Bose (w/sub mod), CDR24 Head, iPod (Dension in trunk), iPhone speaker phone, Black Vents/spears/spoiler, clear engine cover, clutch delay mod, Dream1, under drive pulley and Revo chip. - Retired

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Huh? The first sentence says "The 2008 Porsche Cayman reliability score of 9.0 out of 10..." I don't see how that could be constrewed as a reliability issue. Yes, USA Today said "reliability may be an issue", but don't really give any data to back up their statement. There is another USA Today quote that says, "Porsche scored near the top in Power's Sales Satisfaction Index". So from both these statements can we deduct that Cayman owners are very satisfied although they have reliability issues?
    I don't beleive everthing I read. USA Today isn't my scource for Porsche information.
    Another head scratcher is the 2009 dropped to 8.0 out of 10.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I did a lot of research online prior to purchasing my used '07. If you read all the reviews and user reviews going back through the model years, 2006 - current, you will note that the vast majority of owners are very happy with their decisions. If there were significant Q/A and reliability problems, they would be reported and I am not finding this.

    A definite concern is long term cost of ownership, which only you can determine what you can accept. I went in with eyes open and requested an idea of costs for oil and seasonal tire changes and minor and major services, from the dealers I contacted. I felt that they were straight forward in their replies. Obviously access to a quality, fair and honest dealer is one key. I would say from my brief time on this board, if you tell the "old hands" where you live, they will go out of their way to recommend good options.

    Only time will tell how each individual vehicle will do. But that is in the hands of the owner by making sure that all scheduled maintenance is completed religiously.

    Good luck with your decision.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Quote Originally Posted by austinwi80 View Post
    But that is in the hands of the owner by making sure that all scheduled maintenance is completed religiously.
    Very true. Buy used wisely. Avoid modified cars. Maintain it according to Porsche. The risk of unexpected ownership expense will be greatly reduced.
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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I bought a 2006 CS with 12.5 K miles and a CPO. No serious problems now with 20 more months and 25K more miles of smiles. Wonderful car. Only problem was the CD player failed and was replaced by the dealer under warranty.

    Oh, there is one problem. I take it out to fill with gas and for some reason feel a road trip coming on. I fall into temptation and return home hours later and it needs gas again. But those hours are wonderful. Ed
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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Merry View Post
    I bought a 2006 CS with 12.5 K miles and a CPO. No serious problems now with 20 more months and 25K more miles of smiles. Wonderful car. Only problem was the CD player failed and was replaced by the dealer under warranty.

    Oh, there is one problem. I take it out to fill with gas and for some reason feel a road trip coming on. I fall into temptation and return home hours later and it needs gas again. But those hours are wonderful. Ed
    Seems like you have found the perpetual motion machine....

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    So far so good with my used '06 CS.
    Whatever you do, wherever you go, enjoy the drive.

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    I find the GT3 very sexy while the cayman very attractive. The GT3 is like a girlfriend while the cayman is a wife.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Read the race forum re the robustness of the new drivetrains. A year's worth of racing without incident.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I purchased my CS in February 2006 and have not had a single issue. I only have 25,000 miles on it, but I guess that is enough to have any major issue show up.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I know it's anecdotal, but the CS is far and away the most reliable car I've owned. The car is stock with 34,000 miles, and maintained to the owner's manual with the exception of oil changes. Those get done every 10,000.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I bought a 99 Boxster new and drove it until I purchased an 08 CS new. The only warranty issue I had was with the radio in my Boxster. Had to be replaced. Only normal service for oil changes etc. I do change the oil every 5000 miles. Probably too often but who cares.

    I drive these cars in all kinds of conditions. I have driven across country. Never had a problem. Great cars.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    I really have no issues with my car. Burnt out brake light bulbs and fog lights bulbs are my most common reason to see the dealer (all replaced under warranty). Lose driver's seat fixed under warranty. Persistent rattle from outside the car near front passenger under tray can't seem to solve it but that's it. Front rotors and pads and oil changes are the only big expenses so far and I have 50,000 kilometers on mine in 3 years of driving.


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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Bought new 2 yrs ago, 10k miles no probs other than an irritating rattle from the trunk shade flapping on the engine cover. I have to bend the two metal bars periodically to prevent contact. Bad design and annoying; nothing else other than this one problem.

    Scheduled maintenance cost are high but should not be a surprise if you have been browsing the board.

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    I've put 5,000 miles on my used 2006 S with RS350 Sharkwerks kit and the car has been fantastic so far. I put a quart of oil in since she was a bit low a month or two ago and putting in fresh oil next week. Car has never missed a beat.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Quote Originally Posted by SNowy_Cay View Post
    Scheduled maintenance cost are high but should not be a surprise if you have been browsing the board.
    Have you done your major service yet? Wondering how much that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawc View Post
    Have you done your major service yet? Wondering how much that is.
    Yes; first major service and a brake flush a month ago at the local dealer, cost ~$800.

    From reading the posts sounds like can be done for cheaper.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Those types of surveys are given too much weight compared to what they are actually measuring. TrueDelta.com (a site that does its own surveys) has some interesting articles on JD Power and Consumer Reports that might set your mind at ease. Here's a bit from that site...

    "A few years ago Hummer and MINI protested because their vehicles received low IQS scores because of poor fuel economy and awful cupholders, respectively. These weren't things as the dealer could fix, as the were endemic to the vehicles' designs. But J.D. Power counted them as problems anyway.

    Some consumers would like dissatisfiers to count. Others only want to know the rate of repairable issues. With IQS scores there's no way to separate the two. It's not clear what is being measured."
    Who benefits from the research?<br>Problems with J.D. Power's approach -- a think piece on the auto industry, its products, and/or this website.

    From low ground clearance to black brake dust to difficult ingress to firm ride, I can think of dozens to "problems" your typical Camry owner might flag as "quality issues" if rating a Cayman S.

    Read these pages too:
    Unexplained anomalies within<br><i>Consumer Reports</i> -- a think piece on the auto industry, its products, and/or this website.
    Seven Serious Problems with<br><i>Consumer Reports</i> -- a think piece on the auto industry, its products, and/or this website.

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    Re: Cayman reliability ??????

    Talk about reliability; here a the Cayman's race series sponsor (napletonicon Porsch) describing lessons learned after the new block's first season: "We have learned that the new engine is perfect. No oiling issues, overheating, or bearing failures. Power steering failures are non exsistint since the fluid is cooled thru the engine cooler. No ABS issues whatsoever. We have over 30K track miles on the cars now with several 3 and 4 hour enduos, 98 degree race weekends, rain, you name it. They have performed without a hiccup" !!

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