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    Infotainment package worth it?

    After going mildly crazy scouring the used Cayman market, I have decided the only way I will find my perfect CS is to build one.

    After speccing her out I came up with an options bill of almost $20k. The one option I really can't decide on is whether or not the new infotainment package is worth it.

    The package is roughly $3600 I believe and provides you with PCM, Bose upgrade, and XM?

    Is this an option that is worth it? I have read so many non-complimentary threads on the Bose and do not need XM. So mostly it boils down to the PCM and how great it is or isn't.

    Any feedback is greatly appreciated. I just plan on using my iPod mostly for music and do not know if the PCM upgrade is really great or not for that.


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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    That package wasn't available on my '09 but I can speak to some of the the components. XM is nice, but it does have a yearly charge. I like the PCM because you can program it to tell you when your favorite artists or songs on are xm. The nav system is ok, but if you have any recent cell phone you can always have the nav there. If I was ordering a car today I probably would skip the nav system. I don't have bose. I think that the standard sound system is lacking, (I would like an easy upgrade-speakers maybe). But the bose system isn't so good either.
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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    The car 'books' with NAV. That is to say that all dealerships will offer you trade in prices that assume you have NAV. You can expect to be in a weaker barganing position should you not have it. Personally I think the BOSE issues have been completely overplayed by a few audiophiles with an axe to grind.... with a few tweeks its a good system.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    crazyrob, no pkgs were available when I did my '09 custom order. You don't mention if infotainment pkg also includes usb/ipod/aux option. You'll need that if you want to listen to your ipod through car's sound system.

    In Houston, XM definitely worth it, at least for me. I can find fewer than 5 FM stations worth listening to, and one of those is NPR.

    PCM gives you access to a lot more than just control over XM - lighting, memory, etc. And the nav system is very good - it means one LESS device to fumble around with and is well integrated into the PCM.
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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen_the_Red View Post
    crazyrob, no pkgs were available when I did my '09 custom order. You don't mention if infotainment pkg also includes usb/ipod/aux option. You'll need that if you want to listen to your ipod through car's sound system.

    In Houston, XM definitely worth it, at least for me. I can find fewer than 5 FM stations worth listening to, and one of those is NPR.

    PCM gives you access to a lot more than just control over XM - lighting, memory, etc. And the nav system is very good - it means one LESS device to fumble around with and is well integrated into the PCM.
    I think the USB comes standard on the '11's but there may be an upgrade charge on it with the PCM. I was unaware of the lighting and other customizable options. Good info! I plan on keeping the car for at least 10 years so I guess I really shouldn't sweat the money. I just didn't know how well people like the PCM and nav.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    NAV dates a car. I have a 2003 Range Rover and the NAV is basically worthless because the roads have changed and the technology has improved to the point that the NAV it has looks ancient.

    Stereo with Ipod connector is really all you need the rest can be done with an iphone or Blackeberry.
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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by landrovered View Post
    NAV dates a car. I have a 2003 Range Rover and the NAV is basically worthless because the roads have changed and the technology has improved to the point that the NAV it has looks ancient.

    Stereo with Ipod connector is really all you need the rest can be done with an iphone or Blackeberry.
    Good point!

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    I have the PCM 3, Nav, iPod, XM combo in my '09. While it was spendy compared to aftermarket options, i felt it was such a huge improvement over the last gen (I owned a 997.1) that I felt it was worth it. I have not regretted that decision once. Stuff the subwoofer with polyfill and the system sound very good. The integration of the phone and the XM navtraffic are really great especially if you use the car as a DD or even a just occasionally, it's really great. Amortize the cost over the life of the car and I don't think it's really that bad (but I am a professional justifier).

    Many will say you can just buy a cheap nav/bluetooth headset etc, but if you wanted to be economical, you probably wouldn't be buying a Porsche anyway.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    I got the pcm 3.0, universal audio(which is now standard on 2011), xm and Sports chrono plus on my 2010. If I was to do it again I would absolutely order the pcm 3.0, xm,universal audio and sports chrono. All of the options intertwine with each other nicely. Not to get off the subject I would consider the ventilated seats if you Cayman is going to be a daily driver. Now that I have close to 2000 miles on my car I wish I had it. in terms of Bose it is not bad, however if you plan on adding a aftermarket system like I am doing do not both. To add a aftermarket system to maintain your factory nav you need a JL CleanSweep. After adding a CleanSweep you can then add aftermarket amps and speakers seamlessly.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyrob View Post
    I think the USB comes standard on the '11's but there may be an upgrade charge on it with the PCM. I was unaware of the lighting and other customizable options. Good info! I plan on keeping the car for at least 10 years so I guess I really shouldn't sweat the money. I just didn't know how well people like the PCM and nav.
    As I have understood the custom lighting and locking features only come with PCM if you also get Sport Chrono. Not sure if that has changed for 2011, but it was true in 2008 with PCM 2.1 and I understood it was the same in 2009 with PCM 3.0.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    Thanks for all of the input everybody.

    I went ahead and ordered the infotainment package. PDK with sports chrono plus, and PCM sounds like is has some fun stuff too besides the Nav and display upgrades!

    Can't wait!

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    When I ordered my '09, they had dropped the "package" deals - had to piece-meal the options at full price. Now, they add back in all the stuff I did.

    PDK is superb. But I suggest not using the Sport or Sport Plus until after break-in period. Then, let 'er rip.
    2009 Cayman S, Malachite Green Metallic, Sand Beige full leather, power seats w/ heat AND ventilation, PDK, PASM, Sports Chrono Plus, BOSE, XM, PCM 3.0, iPod/USB, ACC, bi-xenons, rear wiper, luggage partition, self-dimming mirrors, illum stainless steel door sills, stock 18" wheels, multi-function steering wheel, LED door storage lighting. Mod(s): ceramic window tint, clear bra, clear side markers, Das Schild, stuffed & Sonic Shield padded BOSE, MDS black front grilles.

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stephen_the_Red View Post
    When I ordered my '09, they had dropped the "package" deals - had to piece-meal the options at full price. Now, they add back in all the stuff I did.

    PDK is superb. But I suggest not using the Sport or Sport Plus until after break-in period. Then, let 'er rip.
    I've heard a million takes on break-in. What did you do?

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    Re: Infotainment package worth it?

    During very 1st drive, from dealership in Dallas to part-time home in Baton Rouge, varied rpm's by gently pushing accelerator, letting speed build up, then backing off after 5-10 minutes. You can get to 100+mph w/o going over 4200rpm easy this way.

    Drove around BR for the weekend, then long trip from BR back to Houston, again up & down w rpm's. On clear stretches w no traffic, also hit the brakes pretty hard. (My first new Porsche, so wanted to get used to that feel. Way more sticking power than the Volvo sedan or Dodge Ram diesels I also drive.)

    Putting the accel down, it first gets to a "detente", a mild stopping point that is not "pedal-to-the-metal". Don't floor it - PDK will downshift and zoom like nobody's business. I did hit 6K+ rpm a few times accidentally but that won't hurt. It's the long-term high range they advise to avoid during break-in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyrob View Post
    After going mildly crazy scouring the used Cayman market, I have decided the only way I will find my perfect CS is to build one.

    After speccing her out I came up with an options bill of almost $20k. The one option I really can't decide on is whether or not the new infotainment package is worth it.

    The package is roughly $3600 I believe and provides you with PCM, Bose upgrade, and XM?

    Is this an option that is worth it? I have read so many non-complimentary threads on the Bose and do not need XM. So mostly it boils down to the PCM and how great it is or isn't.
    Well as a seasoned (3 days) Cayman expert here's my $0.02. The PCM is a good option as it integrates fully with an i-Pod/i-Phone. The touch screen is easy to use but the display is small, but larger than any smart phone / portable device. Bose is not such a big deal, it's loud and has a kicking bass, but the sound package plus is good, vastly better than my BMW. XM sounds cool, we cant get satellite radio here, just low-fi analog and some patchy digital cover $20k options seems right for the perfect car if you have it to spend. It's a head vs. heart thang on the used vs. new.

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