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    New Body Style - Update

    Hi Everyone, was at my dealer yesturday for warranty work (Paul Miller) and the sales manager verified that the new body style for the Cayman and 911 will be out for 2012 with orders being placed in 2011. He hasn't seen it yet but he did hear that there will be material body style changes to both lines of cars!

    Anyone have any insight or guess/estimate of what the changes could look lik? Very curious.

    My car is due in 2012 so I am constantly going back and fourth on whether I want a 911 (for better performance) or Cayman (MUCH better looks/bigger head turner).


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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Here is a link to the latest AutoCar article on the next 911 with rendering.
    Looks the same as the current car if you ask me. It will evolve into a more luxurious 2+0 GT and move "upmarket"

    The Cayman/Boxster will also move upmarket as a new 4 cylinder entry level
    roadster will be developed with VAG (the '356")

    The new cars will be bigger, more powerful, more economical, more expensive and not look much different than the current cars.

    You can be sure that the new Cayman won't be faster than the entry level Carrera

    Next Porsche 911 in detail - Autocar.co.uk

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Once VW seized control it was inevitable that they would start pushing the Porsches up-market to create some breathing room for Audi. The Audi TTRS will cost more than the current Base Boxster and they can't have that can they? Expect Porsche to slot in between Audi and Bently/Lambo over the next 5 years.

    This post contains opinion only, not facts.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by spourreza View Post
    My car is due in 2012 so I am constantly going back and fourth on whether I want a 911 (for better performance) or Cayman (MUCH better looks/bigger head turner).
    More horsepower does not performance make.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    I have heard that the new Cayman is due out in the Spring of 2012, which would be either a MY 2012 or early MY 2013. If the new Cayman is substantially more expensive than the current models, that would bode well for resale value of the current models.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by ccd View Post
    I have heard that the new Cayman is due out in the Spring of 2012, which would be either a MY 2012 or early MY 2013. If the new Cayman is substantially more expensive than the current models, that would bode well for resale value of the current models.
    We sure hope so.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    According to this article: - 2012 Porsche Cayman rendering - Top Speed the new 2012 Cayman is set to compete with Audi's new R3?! and the new Z4. Looks very pretty, love the raw Carbon roof, although most likely an expensive option, is very sexy! I really hope the real thing will have those scooped doors too!

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    The 991 was designed before the 918 Spyder which is unfortunate, since there is a lot of new design language in that design. Hopefully some of it will find its way into the 981 which means the next Cayman will probably still be much better looking than the next 911. The 991, in term of design does not seem like a bigger leap than the 997 from the 996. It still seems to use the current doors which probaly means that the 981 styling wont be much different either as it will supposedly share a platform with the 991.

    I just wonder for how much longer they can build the 911 with a 6 cylinder now that the Panamera is on the market with a torqy V8 and a sporty ride. Surely their premier sportscar should use the V8 and V8 turbo. The upmarket Caybox can then justify its higher price with the bigger flat sixes ie 3.6 and 3.8
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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Its all complete speculation and in reality neither the car magazines or the dealers know anything more than the basics that there is a new model coming. They have no idea exactly when, but 8 year production cycles and help them guess, and they have no idea exactly what so the guess again. It is a fairly safe assumption that the next Cayman/Boxster will go upmarket a bit but that could be in essence just getting rid of the base models and the S version becoming the standard and then having a model above that which becomes the S or it could be a huge nudge, who knows? Nobody also knows what the merger will bring but what we do know is that with VW and Porsche being close since the outset it probably wont be a bad thing. Look what they have done with Lamborghini.

    Artist renderings are usually tosh so if you are looking at buying a Cayman or 911 or whatever buy one now as you might be waiting longer than you think, not like the new one, not be able to afford it or maybe even all 3. Living for tomorrow is for chumps.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    Its all complete speculation and in reality neither the car magazines or the dealers know anything more than the basics that there is a new model coming. They have no idea exactly when, but 8 year production cycles and help them guess, and they have no idea exactly what so the guess again. It is a fairly safe assumption that the next Cayman/Boxster will go upmarket a bit but that could be in essence just getting rid of the base models and the S version becoming the standard and then having a model above that which becomes the S or it could be a huge nudge, who knows? Nobody also knows what the merger will bring but what we do know is that with VW and Porsche being close since the outset it probably wont be a bad thing. Look what they have done with Lamborghini.

    Artist renderings are usually tosh so if you are looking at buying a Cayman or 911 or whatever buy one now as you might be waiting longer than you think, not like the new one, not be able to afford it or maybe even all 3. Living for tomorrow is for chumps.
    Well said mate

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    Those air scoops are lovely, hope it turns out like that, perhaps helping a nice 3.6 breathe better

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    As the previous poster said, these scoops are pure conjecture and the renderings are just photoshop impressions based on photographs of the existing cars

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by kehr View Post
    More horsepower does not performance make.
    True enough but the article also says they've pared the based carrera down
    by 30 kg. Lowering performance with less weight and more power is harder
    than lowering performance with just more power but still it can be done.

    Besides.... what does "performance" mean? And when is Porsche in a rush to
    spend a bunch of development money making their products worse?

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    Living for tomorrow is for chumps.
    I agree with nearly all you said. However "living for tomorrow" might easily be
    recast as "investing". I suspect people who are good at investing have a
    much higher correlation of driving a Porsche than the population at large.
    But I'm often surprised by people - or rather groups of them.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by wayne View Post
    I agree with nearly all you said. However "living for tomorrow" might easily be
    recast as "investing". I suspect people who are good at investing have a
    much higher correlation of driving a Porsche than the population at large.
    But I'm often surprised by people - or rather groups of them.
    Cars are not investments they are the exact opposite or certainly for the first 20 or so years unless they are extremely rare.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    Quote Originally Posted by craig View Post
    Cars are not investments they are the exact opposite or certainly for the first 20 or so years unless they are extremely rare.
    I beg to differ. At my age, my cars are indeed an investment - in my immediate gratification because I'm afraid if I wait too long I could miss out altogether.

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    If the new Cayman is to compete with the next gen BMW Z4, there won't be much of a price increase because the current Z4 is in the same price range as the current Cayman. Unless the Z4 is going upmarket as well

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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    This image is an impression based on the disguised test mule and probably the most representative of all the images. Stlightly longer wheel base, bigger wheel arches and wheels, new bumpers, tailights, headlights, door mounted mirrors and new interior.


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    Re: New Body Style - Update

    From what little we know about Porsche and emissions standards, a few things seem probable. First, the new Cayman will not look dramatically different from the current Cayman. Porsche designs evolve slowly over time and you just do not see radical departures. To the uninitiated, the car might look the same. To those in the know, the visual cues will be obvious.

    The other probable change is that Porsche is likely to improve performance with more modest hp increases coupled with weight reductions. I actually find this second possible change very exciting. Lighter cars are simply more fun to drive. If you question this propostion, just look at Lotus. The question in my mind is how much lighter can Porsche make a production car given that the Cayman isn't exactly a porker. But if you do see the Cayman move upmarket, it could be due to the cost of effecting significant weight reductions. For example, the carbon fibre roof seen in the artist rendering of the new Cayman would be expensive. That is the type of thing seen in show cars and don't make it to production cars.

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