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    Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Just added a 2007 BMW 130i M Sport to run along side the Cayman and am so far VERY impressed. Obviously the dynamics of the Cayman have spoiled me over the last year so the Baby BM had a tough crowd, but it has totally won me over in a short time-frame.

    The engine. Whist the six in the Cayman S is a snorting stalion with rough unrefined edges (which is the appeal right?) this straight six is like licking caramel off a warm spoon. It delivers the power so effortlessly and pulls very low in the rev range yet you can jump on the gas in second and have all the back-end laughs you like. The Cayman is certainly gonna see less miles which isn't a bad thing.

    I managed a deal which means I'm ditching the run-flats next week for some proper Conti's and look forward to seeing the inevitable improvement in ride. The M Sport is a little firm on the run-flats but not as bad as I had been led to believe. I also got the dealer to re-spray the walnut trim in piano black finish and am very happy with results against the cream leather and black exterior. I'll try and get some photos up.

    Had plenty of Audi's in the past, this being the first Beemer I am really struck with the tech and the driving position as two of the most obvious things I must say. I love the two stage DTC function for different levels of daring. The seats are sublime in their support and function. Tech wise I find that BMWs anti-hill-roll control is far less intrusive than Audi's which I could also noticably feel engaging and disengaging. The cars fully loaded with all the cruise, auto wiper and light options etc and again these function in a predictable fashion which I know the other half will get to grips with quickly and not just ignore. It's returning 25.9MPG which is also surprising for straight six un der my foot.

    I got what I consider to be an amazing deal.

    2007 (facelift gen 2) BMW 130i - M Sport with nearly all boxes ticked - 16,560 miles on the clock and four new tyres.

    £14,500 or $ 23,200 - chuffed!!


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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Nice.

    If I needed a four seater tomorrow the 1 series cars would be high on my list. Great fun, even without the turbo.

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    Funny, I thought I'd miss the turbo woosh more than I am. I had a 2007 S3 previously and to get the most out of the four pot you really had to work the gears and ensure you were on the power band, this BM just pulls like a train from anywhere in the rev range which makes it very relaxing as a commuter or alternative to taking the porker. I had the S3 tuned to 300 bhp but i'd still take this little BM every time for the awesome torque it delivers.
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Quote Originally Posted by g-money View Post
    Just added a 2007 BMW 130i M Sport (...) this straight six is like licking caramel off a warm spoon. It delivers the power so effortlessly and pulls very low in the rev range yet you can jump on the gas in second and have all the back-end laughs you like.
    You nailed it! The N52 engine is really, really good... the throttle response when in the sport mode is lightning fast - courtesy of the Valvetronic. It was a really delight to do 'hill and toe' with this engine. One of the best definitions of straight six 'Creaming' POWER.

    I had this on my '08 Z4. It has the same power as the 2.9l on the base gen2 Cayman but it is a LONG way better... better torque, better throttle response, almost as revving (7000rpm) and much better mileage.

    As far as reliability goes... well, you should be awear of the hydraulic lifters noise issue which can lead to major valvetrain damage. I believe BMW has a fix for it now.

    Wonderful engine, I really miss it... enjoy!


    PS: Please DO ditch those run-flats and put some Pilot Sport's (or Potenza's, if you want them to last longer), you won't believe how much difference it will make... Also, BMWs anti-hill-roll control is the best I have ever known... the one I got in the Cayman suks BIG time.
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    Thanks for the heads up man, I'll be checking to see if it's had the fix already or not. The only other niggle is a rattle from the window frames but again I understand this is a known issue with a fix via dealer.

    Couldn't get any Michelin PS2icon/3 anywhere in Europe!! So I've got some Conti's coming tomorrow.
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    You can learn more about the problem here:


    Valve train (lifter) tick/noise


    and the engine itself:


    BMW N52

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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Good deal! I'm a big 1-series fan. A mildly tuned 135i was in my run group last trip to VIR...fast, fast, fast! My oldest will be turning 16 before I know it...thinking he will get the TDI and I'll have to pick one up for my "commuter" .

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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Maybe you guys can tell me...how does the 1 series fit into the hierarchy? Given its size and model designation, I would have guessed it would be the new BMW entry model, but the pricing is sometimes higher than the 3 series. What gives?

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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Quote Originally Posted by Cayman S View Post
    Maybe you guys can tell me...how does the 1 series fit into the hierarchy? Given its size and model designation, I would have guessed it would be the new BMW entry model, but the pricing is sometimes higher than the 3 series. What gives?
    The base model, at least in the US, is the 328i. The 1 series in Europe, has many more models than in the US. (3 door, 5 door, coupe, convertible) plus 3 or 4 gas engines and 3 or so diesel motors.

    So in Europe the 1 Series is the entry model. (Go to the BMW site in England to see the dizzying array of 1 Series combinations). http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/homepage/

    Not so in the US, and Canada. It was targeted for a more select, sporty minded customer base here. With that said, the base 128i in the US is $29,450, and the 328i is $33,650 though there are probably more standard features on the 328i. You will find way more 328is on the lots than a 128i.
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Recent news: the excelent NA 3.0l inline-six (N52) will be replaced by a new 2.0 liter TwinPower Turbo 4-cylinder engine.

    So, good deals on second-hand N52 equipped Bimmers are to be expected.

    Also, that's a sign that Caymans will soon receive similar engines...

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    Sad times... I'm going to keep that little straight six going until people are whizzing around propelled by fuel cells.

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    "which caveman?"

    "the one with a huge grin on his face...."
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Quote Originally Posted by g-money View Post
    Sad times... I'm going to keep that little straight six going until people are whizzing around propelled by fuel cells.

    "hey look at the caveman!"

    "which caveman?"

    "the one with a huge grin on his face...."
    And with stick (shift) in hand. How primitive?

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    Hi G-money and welcome to the, er, CS+130 club I've been running my 130 for 2 years, it's an 08 in LeMans Blue. Very excellent car and I'm in no hurry to change it unless for a 135M. Now before you scamper off to the tyre shop for non run-flats read the posts on babybmw.net I've been thinking along the same lines for a while, and lots of people have done this. The issue is sketchy high speed ride and handling on the more springy tyres. So I'm thinking that in addition to the non run flats when the tyres need changing I'll change the bushings to a harder compound to compensate, the M3 ones work well, and firmer suspension to control the roll a bit better in corners. BTW the 130 really is a stealth car, so much fun creeping up on people and going Boooo! The guys in the Sussex police have just got an undercover one to patrol the A23 down by Brighton. Enjoy

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    Thanks, nice to know someone else has seen the logic of twinning these two!!

    I switched to non-run flats after a week. Haven't felt any twitchiness or such, just an improvement in rear end grip and more feedback at the wheel. I only change one thing at a time to assess results so i would try this before shelling out on other bits.

    Yeah, great stealth car, mines debadged too. Going in to garage on Friday for BMW Performance exhaust and Alpine stereo upgrade... Can't wait!

    p.s. Went to Uni in Brighton!
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    I'm considering getting a 135i.

    Good tip on run flat tires. I'll see if I can work something with the dealer to get something for the run flat so I don't have either use them up or sell them myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Augie View Post
    I'm considering getting a 135i.

    Good tip on run flat tires. I'll see if I can work something with the dealer to get something for the run flat so I don't have either use them up or sell them myself.
    Yeah I had to wrangle a bit. They were not allowed to let it leave the forecourt on anything but run-flats. But as they were brand new i was able to negotiate that they pick up the runflat tires from my local fitter after I'd switched them out.
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Congrats! I also LOOOVE the 130i/330i!! I actually prefer BMW day to day over all brands I've had before and I think the handling is great for 'normal' driving even if it isn't necessarily optimal for track use. I actually prefer the feel it gives when driving spiritedly on normal roads more than that of the 987 because the Porsche only really comes alive at very hard driving. And THAT ENGINE!!! I still vividly remember the first time I drove the 330i with the N52...

    What a combination for driving enjoyment: the cosy feel and handling of the 1-series combined with that amazingly smooth, strong, responsive, vocal and sweet-sounding engine and good manual gearbox! And practicality too with IMO PERFECT ergonomics, well thought out details that you appreciate for years, the handy hatchback, (over here) great customer service which is super-rare, good reliability and reasonable maintenance pricing.

    I've been trying the 135i coupé and have been salivating over the 1-series M, but what I'd really want (and could live with spending on) is a 130i coupé. I don't need a hatchback and love the coupé design, but I don't want a turbo and the 125i's engine is detuned -who wants to drive in something 'detuned'???
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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Only 700 M1's are coming to the US. They have the 335is motor 335 hp and are 77 lbs lighter. They start at $50K and probably go for $60K.

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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Quote Originally Posted by Augie View Post
    Only 700 M1's are coming to the US. They have the 335is motor 335 hp and are 77 lbs lighter. They start at $50K and probably go for $60K.
    This is accurate, as far as I can tell. In my view this 1M Coupe car (the M1 was a totally different car) is giving BMW a bit of a black eye. They came out touting the 1M Coupe as an entry level M car, but in fact so few will be brought in that only a select few bunch of folks (including some of BMWs own employees), will be able to get this car.

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    Re: Cayman Companion - BMW 130i

    Quote Originally Posted by RobMason View Post
    This is accurate, as far as I can tell. In my view this 1M Coupe car (the M1 was a totally different car) is giving BMW a bit of a black eye. They came out touting the 1M Coupe as an entry level M car, but in fact so few will be brought in that only a select few bunch of folks (including some of BMWs own employees), will be able to get this car.
    Some of us are also still so stubborn that we think that a true M-car (or any true driver's car) should be N/A (or supercharged if FI) and not have turbos -no matter how amazing the 1-series M Coupé is bound to be...

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