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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by dabrams View Post
    The N54/N55 engines in 1M, 135, 335, etc. have had major reliability issues, I wouldn't own one not under warranty. In less than 3 years, I've had problems with HPFP, injectors, VANOS. The NA BMW straight 6 is reliable, but not the turbos.
    The replacement HPFP performed via recall, seem to have drastically improved the fuel pump issues.

    No problems with my '09 car, in 2 years. It is a very fast car. More torque than the CS.


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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by RogerM View Post
    The looks are a subjective issue, but you can't escape the fact that the 1M is not more than a souped-up 1-series.

    The Cayman on the other hand....

    I would seriously advise testing both back-to-back.

    And then thinking deeply about it i.e.
    Cayman.... A souped up Boxster with a hardtop.

    The 135i is the best small coupe I have owned (including 3 previous M3 models), luxurious, fast, sporty coupe, and my choice over my CS as a daily driver.

    That said, the CS is the best looking Porsche made.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by RobMason View Post
    Cayman.... A souped up Boxster with a hardtop.

    The 135i is the best small coupe I have owned (including 3 previous M3 models), luxurious, fast, sporty coupe, and my choice over my CS as a daily driver.

    That said, the CS is the best looking Porsche made.

    +1, 135i is a great car, no issues with my 08. I'm looking forward to driving a 1M....

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    The 135i is fast and powerful but leaves something to be desired in the handling department. I don't miss mine. With that said, however, the 1M should correct the handling deficiencies of the 135i.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    I found this article on the web and thought it could help a little even if the car at the top of the list is a CR and not a CS.

    BMW 1M Beats M3 at Hockenheim! - GTSPIRIT.COM

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by Flat6_Lover View Post
    I found this article on the web and thought it could help a little even if the car at the top of the list is a CR and not a CS.

    BMW 1M Beats M3 at Hockenheim! - GTSPIRIT.COM
    It's also slower than, the PDK and the manual Cayman S at Hockenheim.

    Cheers

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    It's also slower than, the PDK and the manual Cayman S at Hockenheim.

    Cheers
    True, but the difference in time is marginal, 0.2 seconds on the PDK and 0.1 seconds on the manual.
    Personally, I find it a little too porky for my taste. I prefer the curves of the 987 platform.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Was at a BMW dealership today. Was told they had 1 allocation for a 1 M, 8 people on the waiting list. This is the only dealership in San Antonio. As a point of reference, they currently have 4 1-series, 122 3-series and 5 M3's in their new car inventory. They said some dealers won't get any.
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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    It's also slower than, the PDK and the manual Cayman S at Hockenheim.

    Cheers

    Porsche 987.5 Cayman S PDK...1:13.9
    Porsche 987.5 Cayman S MT....1:14.0
    BMW M BUS Nš1...................1:14.1
    BMW E92 M3 ZCP DCT............1:14.2
    Audi TT-RS Coupe..................1:14.3
    BMW E92 M3 6MT(Cup+ Tires)..1:14.3


    Not bad for a BUS especially if we consider that a simple difference in the tyres brand name can change the time table.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by CaymanPower View Post
    Porsche 987.5 Cayman S PDK...1:13.9
    Porsche 987.5 Cayman S MT....1:14.0
    BMW M BUS Nš1...................1:14.1
    BMW E92 M3 ZCP DCT............1:14.2
    Audi TT-RS Coupe..................1:14.3
    BMW E92 M3 6MT(Cup+ Tires)..1:14.3


    Not bad for a BUS especially if we consider that a simple difference in the tyres brand name can change the time table.
    I know, beauty is only skin deep but it still goes all the way down, and yes it still looks like a BUS.
    P.S. I also own a 3 series and I think it looks a lot better than the 1 series.
    Cheers
    Last edited by ralarcon; 05-04-2011 at 06:20 PM.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    I know, beauty is only skin deep but it still goes all the way down, and yes it still looks like a BUS.
    P.S. I also own a 3 series and I think it looks a lot better than the 1 series.
    Cheers
    I don't know why you think it looks like a BUS. You can SAY it looks like a bus, but it really doesn't. Here is an HDR shot I took of my 135i. Show me another shot of a BUS, that looks like this car, and perhaps your credibility will rise.



    I do agree the 3 series Coupe looks better, but this car will out perform a 3 series.

    The steering and handling is known to be an issue, when on the track, but with non RFT tires, and swapping the front anti sway bar (from an E93 M3), it is plenty sufficient for a road car. Smooth riding, and sporty.
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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    I just don't understand that high ridge line. I always thought it looked like a boat, not a bus. Maybe it's supposed to evoke the 2002? Ah well, viva la difference eh? Another Bangle original I bet. Supposed to be a hell of a car tho, so there's that

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by aiiee View Post
    I just don't understand that high ridge line. I always thought it looked like a boat, not a bus. Maybe it's supposed to evoke the 2002? Ah well, viva la difference eh? Another Bangle original I bet. Supposed to be a hell of a car tho, so there's that
    +1. Not a looker by any measure, wonder how the new 3-series will turn out (less Banglised and therefore prettier I hope).
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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Forget about the looks... i like it, but the important thing is the less weight and shorter overall dimensions than the 3 series, mainly the wheelbase.

    Just add the torquey engine and this is the best M car in a long time...

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by aiiee View Post
    I just don't understand that high ridge line. I always thought it looked like a boat, not a bus. Maybe it's supposed to evoke the 2002? Ah well, viva la difference eh? Another Bangle original I bet. Supposed to be a hell of a car tho, so there's that
    Side by side picture Cayman R , BMW M1 , need we say more ?

    AutoBild: BMW 1M vs. Porsche Cayman R

    Cheers

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    Side by side picture Cayman R , BMW M1 , need we say more ?
    The fact they are comparing the 1M against the Cayman R and not the Cayman S, both of which way above the 1M price tag, says it all... that's right!

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    Side by side picture Cayman R , BMW M1 , need we say more ?
    You don't need to say anything. But you should try to explain why you are comparing a more mass produced front engine, twin turboed, luxury 4/5 passenger coupe, with a mid engine, lower volume 2 passenger, more expensive sports car. They are not the same type of car, but people continue to want to try to make them comparable.

    Can you compare a Cayman R, with a Bugatti Veyron. You could but why, need I say more?


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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by ralarcon View Post
    I know, beauty is only skin deep but it still goes all the way down, and yes it still looks like a BUS.
    P.S. I also own a 3 series and I think it looks a lot better than the 1 series.
    Cheers
    I would recommend new glasses.

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    Re: Cayman S or BMW 1 Series M Coupe

    Quote Originally Posted by RobMason View Post
    I would recommend new glasses.
    What's few Diopters more or less amongst friends ?

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