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    race seat options for Cayman S

    (Apologies for cross-posting to Planet-9 and PCA forums! Chat where you will...)

    The other thing I'm shopping for in 2011 for my 2006 Cayman S is racing seats (and harnesses, harness bar). (A nice go-fast mod that's also good for safety! Although I'm not going to do a full-on rollbar or get a HANS device this year, that'll be a bit down the road I figure....)

    I'm a petite female (5'4", 115lbs) but want to accommodate larger bodies like HPDE instructors & my husband in the passenger seat so maybe I should mix & match seats? I have been researching the options and will be sitting in a GT3 seat and a Recaro profi-SPG before buying. In advance of that I was wondering if people here who have a non-OEM race seat (but Recaro is OEM really), can you use the lap belt with it? My car's a dual-purpose daily driver & autox/HPDE ride and I don't want to have to use the harness. Also want it to still slide. Are there other race seat brands/models folks recommend for my use case?

    And if there are any leads to be had on used black Euro GT3 seats, consider me a buyer! That seems ideal but I can't believe online new they're like $13k??

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Liz,

    Safety REQUIRES a roll bar or cage in conjunction with a race seat / 5 or 6 points. And they should never be on sliders.

    Its very difficult to make a street car into a track (dual purpose car). Something always comes up short. If you go too far on the track side, its a miserable street ride. Before you mod your 987, consider buying a dedicated track car. I've done it both ways, and have learned that having the dedicated track car is the way to go. A 944 all prepped for the track can be had for under $ 5k, for example. Like this one:

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Quote Originally Posted by drcollie View Post
    . . . I've done it both ways, and have learned that having the dedicated track car is the way to go. A 944 all prepped for the track can be had for under $ 5k, for example. Like this one:

    Porsche Track Car - Awesome 944
    Of course, you will then need a trailer, a place to store the car and trailer, and probably a fair amount of mechanical aptitude (or a husband/good friend with some) to keep it running.

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Hi Liz,

    i'm about to go down this road for the second time, with my second Cayman S.

    The first time I bought a pair of GT3 seats from Suncoasticon, some 6 point harnesses, and a harness bar.

    The danger of just using a harness bar and racing seats is that you are belted into the seat in an extremely rigid way. With your helmet on -- you may (or your passenger may) extend above the top of the seat. in the event of a rollover, it is possible for your head to be held in a position where it is above the rigid seat (bad).

    I subsequently bought a heigo bolt-in cage. I do have the original DMG (i think) harness bar still and would sell for very reasonable price -- but I must tell you everything i've heard is that a harness bar is in fact dangerous for above reasons.
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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Thanks for the thoughtful responses, everybody! After talking it over with a local hotshoe today, I am probably going to go with a Heigo roll bar; it's less expensive than I thought and for true safety with harnesses you all seem to be absolutely correct about needing a roll bar. I thought skipping the HANS would be OK but really it's about the harnesses. So now I feel a little bit to be outfitting my ride to such an extent but in a good way....

    I do not want to drive a 944 I want to drive my Cherie!! The GT3 seats, which I sat in today, seem to offer driveability (you can tuck away the harness buckle and add extra padding when you want) so I won't be hating life driving around town. Next year or the year after I'll go with the dedicated track wheels & tires, which I can trailer to events the way I do my dedicated autox wheels & tires today....

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Quote Originally Posted by EBacon View Post
    (Apologies for cross-posting to Planet-9 and PCA forums! Chat where you will...)

    The other thing I'm shopping for in 2011 for my 2006 Cayman S is racing seats (and harnesses, harness bar). (A nice go-fast mod that's also good for safety! Although I'm not going to do a full-on rollbar or get a HANS device this year, that'll be a bit down the road I figure....)

    I'm a petite female (5'4", 115lbs) but want to accommodate larger bodies like HPDE instructors & my husband in the passenger seat so maybe I should mix & match seats? I have been researching the options and will be sitting in a GT3 seat and a Recaro profi-SPG before buying. In advance of that I was wondering if people here who have a non-OEM race seat (but Recaro is OEM really), can you use the lap belt with it? My car's a dual-purpose daily driver & autox/HPDE ride and I don't want to have to use the harness. Also want it to still slide. Are there other race seat brands/models folks recommend for my use case?

    And if there are any leads to be had on used black Euro GT3 seats, consider me a buyer! That seems ideal but I can't believe online new they're like $13k??

    Cheers,
    Liz
    Liz,
    Check out the carbon fiber seats at Maxspeed Motorsports. Just a fraction of the GT3 seat cost and just under 20 pounds vs the 60 on the OEM.
    Owned, used and tested for 6 months now and I dont have a single complain. (read all the information related to the seats because it is exacly what you will receive. If you buy them it is better if you get the base also from them at a misc extra cost.(you will also need to buy seat belt buckles (Suncoasticon) if you wish to keep the factory belts functional.)I suggest buying a separate set of buckles to keep your factory seats intact in case you wish to use them again or put them on sale. The harness bar is not easily accesible but RSS can ussually get you one no later than in 2 or 3 weeks.

    Best wishes

    Jose

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Jose:

    The issue of replica seats has come up before. While they may have great fit, feel and finish, to my knowledge none have been crash tested. While you may feel different, I can't imagine saving even 50% on something that may (or may not) save my *** in a crash. YMMV.

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Liz, if you are going to all the trouble of the roll bas & harnesses don't put off the HANS. When you are tightly strapped in & have the weight on a helmet on your head your neck becomes a very weak link!
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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisF View Post
    Jose:

    The issue of replica seats has come up before. While they may have great fit, feel and finish, to my knowledge none have been crash tested. While you may feel different, I can't imagine saving even 50% on something that may (or may not) save my *** in a crash. YMMV.
    +1. Also, many organizations will not allow you to run, even a DE, without a SFI/FIA certified (and not expired) race seat.
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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    I dont think any of you have even seen one in front of you....
    This is a street car which will do "some" track. I dont think owners who spent $50,000 in a street car will spend $5,000 or $13,000 on seats.

    Kroc,
    Surely PCA is not one of those organizations....

    So no one can proove them to be bad seats at the end of the day but I weight over 200 pounds and those seats are very solid. (that is an actual fact for me after doing some events and street use)

    Jose

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    Re: race seat options for Cayman S

    Jose:

    If you're happy with your seat, that is great. My concern is for others who are not getting the full picture. The seat very simply has not been crash tested by anyone. Effectively, you are trusting whoever manufactures that seat with your life in the event of a street or track crash. You are the their unwitting crash test dummy. I do hope that you are a good judge of manufacturing quality because you are trusting them with your life. But if there is one flaw in the CF weave strength and or bonding process....

    If I'm wrong and the MFG has done crash testing/certification, please post up because I would purchase one in a heartbeat.

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