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    cdr 24 replacement

    Hello. I am struggling to find an economical way of upgrading my cdr 24 - to connect with my iPhone 3G, allowing phone and music integration. I currently use a Jabra Cruiser, which is very good but I want to get a better music link i.e. direct rather than FM. Dension 500 is a very expensive way of doing this. I have two questions:

    1. Has anyone found a better way of connecting an iphone 3G to the CDR24?

    2. Is it possible to replace my CDR24 with a CDR30 - and would the CDR30 give me an easier way of linking to my iphone 3G.

    By the way - I have a Porsche Cayman 2.7 manual, year early 2007, fitted with cdr24 and BOSE.

    Thanks for your help in advance!


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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    there really is nothing less than a dension or mobridge that would give you a direct link, but a good step up would be a hardwired FM transmitter:

    Alpine RDS1 (hardwire ipod/iphone) - Classifieds

    RE: CDR30, its questionable as the connector on the back of the unit is different than in the gen 1 boxster/cayman and the fact that the radio is black looks kind of odd on a volcano gray dash.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Thanks for your suggestion. I tried a DICE FM direct system prior to the JABRA cruiser and got a lot of static/interference. The JABRA is far far better - but still not perfect!

    Re the CDR30 retrofit - I just talked to my Porsche dealer in the UK (Nottingham) asking if this could be done. Firstly, they didnt know (groan) and had to ask Porsche UK. The response back from Porsche UK suggests that a CDR30 cannot replace a CDR24...!!! I did not buy into the reasoning given, which was basically that they have not done this and will not support it. For me this doesnt mean that it cannot be done. I understand that the CDR30 comes with an AUX link - so I am eager to know you can fit a CD30 in replace of a CDR24 with BOSE as it would seem to go some way to solving my direct link issue.

    re the colour - the CDR30 I am looking at matches the grey of my car's system???

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    thats odd b/c gen 2 cayman/boxster have an all black dash. have you seen the unit in person?

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Actually, I rechecked the colour and you are correct - see below

    cdr 24 replacement-cdr30.jpg

    it is black... bum!

    So, even if I could figure out how to replace a cdr24, I would then be faced with colour problem...

    Porsche really have not got this part of the customer experience right... unbelievable!
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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by sjo View Post
    Porsche really have not got this part of the customer experience right... unbelievable!
    It is weird, even my 02 Boxster had a special port on the back of the stock Becker. You needed Becker's adapter to go from their connector to the ipod but it was like under $50 all in. Flash forward 8 years and Porsche haven't clued in every car on the planet should have a universal aux in at the very least. CDR 24 = Not very well thought out.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Hey man, I think I have the CDR 24 also, have you found a solution to the iphone /ipod problem? I'm really wanting to find a way to give this dam thing an aux input but am having trouble finding an option other than the ipod iPLUGRDS listed in the articles, yet for some reason nobody has posted anything on that since a couple of years ago and I'm wondering if it will even work on our model and where I can get it installed.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi_Fi_Guy View Post
    It is weird, even my 02 Boxster had a special port on the back of the stock Becker. You needed Becker's adapter to go from their connector to the ipod but it was like under $50 all in. Flash forward 8 years and Porsche haven't clued in every car on the planet should have a universal aux in at the very least. CDR 24 = Not very well thought out.
    I have the CDR 24 also and was wondering if you had a link to the becker products that I would need to purchase?

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by beto83 View Post
    Hey man, I think I have the CDR 24 also, have you found a solution to the iphone /ipod problem? I'm really wanting to find a way to give this dam thing an aux input but am having trouble finding an option other than the ipod iPLUGRDS listed in the articles, yet for some reason nobody has posted anything on that since a couple of years ago and I'm wondering if it will even work on our model and where I can get it installed.
    Quote Originally Posted by beto83 View Post
    I have the CDR 24 also and was wondering if you had a link to the becker products that I would need to purchase?
    If you have the CDR-24 (you should be able to look in your car and tell), then there is nothing you can buy from Becker. Your best bet is a Dension 500 unit which you can purchase from BumperPLugs.com (ask for Eric tell him you saw the info here) Then go read the Dension install article.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by beto83 View Post
    I have the CDR 24 also and was wondering if you had a link to the becker products that I would need to purchase?
    Sorry to confuse my 2002 Boxster had a Becker stereo and BACK THEN you could buy a simple $30 aux-in for the iPod. My 2008 Cayman S has a CDR-24 and there is NO CHEAP AND EASY Aux-In option. My only point was the iPod compatibility from the factory became WORSE over time instead of better.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by Hi_Fi_Guy View Post
    Sorry to confuse my 2002 Boxster had a Becker stereo and BACK THEN you could buy a simple $30 aux-in for the iPod. My 2008 Cayman S has a CDR-24 and there is NO CHEAP AND EASY Aux-In option. My only point was the iPod compatibility from the factory became WORSE over time instead of better.
    Yea I ended up purchasing a dvd unit instead, hopefully they'll fix this on their future models since it seems to be something that a large amount of people would be interested in.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    I actually just finished replacing my stock 2.7 early production Head unit.
    The speakers are out standing for what they are in the car.

    I used a VW-01 wiring harness and a European amplified radio adapter. I got the double din kit from online ebay. I tapped a switched line from the fuse box with a piggy back adapter. This took all of 2 hours from start to finish. I don't have the stock amp amp so no extra finagling with wiring.

    It sounds great cost me a total of 400$ and I have Ipod, aux, and bluetooth for my phone.

    The quality of the stock 24 head unit was abysmal. Porsche should have just put in a block off plate.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmv650 View Post
    I actually just finished replacing my stock 2.7 early production Head unit.
    The speakers are out standing for what they are in the car.

    I used a VW-01 wiring harness and a European amplified radio adapter. I got the double din kit from online ebay. I tapped a switched line from the fuse box with a piggy back adapter. This took all of 2 hours from start to finish. I don't have the stock amp amp so no extra finagling with wiring.

    It sounds great cost me a total of 400$ and I have Ipod, aux, and bluetooth for my phone.

    The quality of the stock 24 head unit was abysmal. Porsche should have just put in a block off plate.

    ssmv650
    If you took pictures you should write up an article on this for our Articles section!

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by ssmv650 View Post
    I actually just finished replacing my stock 2.7 early production Head unit.
    The speakers are out standing for what they are in the car.

    I used a VW-01 wiring harness and a European amplified radio adapter. I got the double din kit from online ebay. I tapped a switched line from the fuse box with a piggy back adapter. This took all of 2 hours from start to finish. I don't have the stock amp amp so no extra finagling with wiring.

    It sounds great cost me a total of 400$ and I have Ipod, aux, and bluetooth for my phone.

    The quality of the stock 24 head unit was abysmal. Porsche should have just put in a block off plate.

    ssmv650

    Yea that would be pretty awesome to have someone if not do a write up at least take some pictures and list what you had to buy. Its a little too late for me to do now, but definitely sounds like it would have worked. I don't know about the block off plate but an extra cup holder would have been nice....lol!

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Nav-tv sells an Aux input that will work on cars with Bose and will input audio directly into the fiber optic stream. NAV-TV Corporation: MOSTAUXPOR AUxillary Audio Input for Porsche Bose Audio System

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    harness adapter.
    Scosche VW01B / VW01
    It is rumored that only the early Caymans had this wiring harness.

    antenna adapter
    Scosche VWA-4B

    Bussmann ATC Fuse Tap found at Advance auto parts for 7$ to tap into a switched power source in the fuse box.

    From ebay I ordered the following titled kit
    PORSCHE CAYMAN 2005 on DOUBLE DIN STEREO FITTING KIT
    34.95 GBP took about 5 days to show up in the US.

    I looked up the radio removal thread to get the stock unit out. I taped over the most fiber and tucked it back into the dash. I zip tied the double dim chassi in the above kit into the opening. I used the supplied foam pads under the double din frame. I did have to grind off some of the tabs on the bezel from the ebay kit to fit my dash.

    I would go as far as offering to help a fellow cayman enthusiast do this. I would caution because mine had the least expensive cdr-24 in it I only had two front speaker leads to connect to no amp to fight with. I will be building speaker enclosures to fit in the brake light corners to get some rear audio.
    Last edited by ssmv650; 04-20-2010 at 05:47 AM.

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    Re: cdr 24 replacement

    Quote Originally Posted by Grey987 View Post
    Nav-tv sells an Aux input that will work on cars with Bose and will input audio directly into the fiber optic stream. NAV-TV Corporation: MOSTAUXPOR AUxillary Audio Input for Porsche Bose Audio System
    Thanks Grey. Okay, electronics experts (not me) - what's the verdict on this? Their site lists it for $349 and it looks to be a digital connection:

    http://www.navtv.com/userfiles/edito...structions.pdf

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