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View Poll Results: Select ALL items you would Definitely BUY if Porsche offered them via Tequipment
LSD / TBD differential 175 62.50%
IPOD adapter/integration 160 57.14%
Engine Performance Modifications (X-51, etc.) 144 51.43%
Sport Seats ala GT2 / GT3 style harness compatible 74 26.43%
Suspension Upgrades: (springs, sway bars, camber plates, etc.) 107 38.21%
Bluetooth adapter/integration 116 41.43%
Aero Package: (full kit, carbon spoiler, Larger Wing, etc.) 57 20.36%
SAT Radio (XM or Sirius) 92 32.86%
Software Flashes (update/upgrade S/C, PASM and other options, etc.) 110 39.29%
Cage / half-cage / harness bar 50 17.86%
Brake Upgrade (PCCB, GT3, etc.) 58 20.71%
Revised Key (folding, more functions, etc.) 143 51.07%
Wheels (colored, lightweight, GT3-style, etc.) 60 21.43%
Mesh for grills 103 36.79%
Exhaust (Adaptive ala Capristo, Lightweight, etc.) 117 41.79%
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Influence Porsche - Tequipment POLL - Step 2

Please vote in this poll to provide feedback to Porsche on what items you would like Tequipment to provide for the Cayman.

You can SELECT MULTIPLE ITEMS, but please selec ONLY those that you would DEFINITELY BUY.

I tried to make them as descriptive as possible and some options like suspension upgrade encompass multiple items. For example if you want camber plates that would fall under suspension, lower springs, suspension. You can look back through the results from our prior step 1 topic thread to get an idea about each selection here. These are the top 15 out of 30+ different category/item answers.

Step 1 topic is here: http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-cha...-step-1-a.html
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What an awesome poll, everyone should answer this!
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Yes, please keep the results coming, I'd like EVERYONE to vote!
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You didn't add upgraded (ie modern) audio system.

I think if PAG offered something of remote quality that ISN'T Bose and had modern technology, that almost everyone would choose it.

Though, it should just be standard.. with no upgrade avail. BMW's come standard with 10 speakers now! If Porsche offered something half as decent I don't think so many people would be pissed!

But as it stands right now... they should simple offer AM radio and nothing else untill they cant fix whatever audio problem exsist with their supplier or engineers. Possibly firing everyone who worked on the Caymans audio system/upgrade!

1) Sound deadening meterial/engine noise intrusion
2) Audio System
3) "CLunk" in the trunk delete option.

After that I would probably buy a Porsche and be worried about X51 option or DFI!





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You didn't add upgraded (ie modern) audio system.

I think if PAG offered something of remote quality that ISN'T Bose and had modern technology, that almost everyone would choose it.

Though, it should just be standard.. with no upgrade avail. BMW's come standard with 10 speakers now! If Porsche offered something half as decent I don't think so many people would be pissed!

But as it stands right now... they should simple offer AM radio and nothing else untill they cant fix whatever audio problem exsist with their supplier or engineers. Possibly firing everyone who worked on the Caymans audio system/upgrade!

1) Sound deadening meterial/engine noise intrusion
2) Audio System
3) "CLunk" in the trunk delete option.

After that I would probably buy a Porsche and be worried about X51 option or DFI!





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Garrett,
If it had been one of the top 15 vote getters in the prior open-responses that came in it would have shown up on the list. Obviously some of the concerns are echoed in the ipod and bluetooth answers, but simply not enough people said trash the whole stereo setup and put in something else or that they'd be willing to do a complete rip and replace through tequipment. There as a separate audio/radio survey that was conducted last year, did you participate in that one?
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If it had been one of the top 15 vote getters in the prior open-responses that came in it would have shown up on the list. Obviously some of the concerns are echoed in the ipod and bluetooth answers, but simply not enough people said trash the whole stereo setup and put in something else or that they'd be willing to do a complete rip and replace through tequipment. There as a separate audio/radio survey that was conducted last year, did you participate in that one?
I have not met one Porsche Cayman owner that is satisfied with their audio system. It is extremely sub-standard for any car, let-alone a car in this price range. The upgraded "BOSE" system is worse than stock.

Go sit in a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. Obviously not a premium brand and those Audio Systems have better accustics than the Cayman. They play MP3's and have usb/iPod connectivity.

I just think many, many Cayman owners simply overlooked their audio systems in the first POLL because Porsches are suppose to be finicky and low tech... right?

Fix whats wrong before offering upgrades!






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The location for auditory pleasure in a Cayman, is located behind the seats.





Ok, the engine does sound nice, but Porsche needs to upgrade the sound system, navigation, and have bluetooth, ipod, mp3, HD radio options available.
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Originally Posted by K-Man S View Post
You can SELECT MULTIPLE ITEMS, but please select ONLY those that you would DEFINITELY BUY.
Definitely buy? Does that mean at any price?

I'm guessing your intended meaning is "definitely buy if the price seems reasonable or affordable", right?
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Definitely buy? Does that mean at any price?

I'm guessing your intended meaning is "definitely buy if the price seems reasonable or affordable", right?
Yes, or perhaps slightly tweaked to "Definitely buy at the anticipated price from Porsche Tequipment"
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Hey as a reminder if you haven't voted in this poll yet PLEASE VOTE!
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Originally Posted by Garrett View Post
I have not met one Porsche Cayman owner that is satisfied with their audio system. It is extremely sub-standard for any car, let-alone a car in this price range. The upgraded "BOSE" system is worse than stock.

Go sit in a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. Obviously not a premium brand and those Audio Systems have better accustics than the Cayman. They play MP3's and have usb/iPod connectivity.

I just think many, many Cayman owners simply overlooked their audio systems in the first POLL because Porsches are suppose to be finicky and low tech... right?

Fix whats wrong before offering upgrades!






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Hi Garrett, my name's Larry. Glad to meet you.

I am satisfied with the Bose audio system in my Cayman.
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I chose the X-51, assuming the price will not be ridiculous.

I would choose LSD. But I spoke with the dealership service manager about getting one put in and any effect on warranty. While he didn't see a direct warranty issue, he did say that the LSD isn't even available in the Carrera anymore, since the inclusion of PSM. Apparently, the combination of an LSD and some real grippy ties can encourage oil starvation to parts of the engine and then engine warranty comes into light. So, I do think that LSD is going to make its way into the factory add-on list.
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Being a big and longtime B&O fan, I'd like Porsche to offer a serious B&O audio system option. I'd pay up to $3500 for the same.

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I think that one of the options on the pole should have been Lightweight interior. When I ordered my CS I think I ordered every performance option except for PCCB. If all the performance options in the pole were available you could build your own CSRS a la carte.
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I think that one of the options on the pole should have been Lightweight interior. When I ordered my CS I think I ordered every performance option except for PCCB. If all the performance options in the pole were available you could build your own CSRS a la carte.
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the options on this poll came from the first open solicited answers from our members. If enough members had said "lightweight interior" it would have made it on the poll, but they did not so the items we have are the top mentions from our memberbase. Doesn't mean there aren't more things out there, just means not as many people requested them or said they would buy them that's all.
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Ken,

Suppose you would have been more than happy to buy one or more of the items (sport seats for example) from Porsche, but since they are not available directly from Porsche specifically for the Cayman you already went aftermarket. I guess then you answer "no" in the poll for those specific items because Porsche has already missed the sales by not offering the products when you were ready to buy?

Also, I can see that the price of some of the items in the poll (brake upgrade for instance) could vary significantly from member's expectations if offered by Porsche depending on what form the offerings take (PCCB vs. something less exotic), so I hope Porsche is aware if these offerings come in priced way over our member's expectations sales may be disappointing no matter what these polls say.
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... Also, I can see that the price of some of the items in the poll (brake upgrade for instance) could vary significantly from member's expectations if offered by Porsche depending on what form the offerings take (PCCB vs. something less exotic), so I hope Porsche is aware if these offerings come in priced way over our member's expectations sales may be disappointing no matter what these polls say.
However, see http://www.planet-9.com/212680-post9.html where Ken clarified the costs expectations. So, for example, I personally would not check the Sat Radio box knowing its going to cost $1K+ when it's easily done for $150 or less aftermarket (albeit not nice and pretty integrated). There are certainly examples to go by. You want an X51 type upgrade, I would be prepared to drop $18K easy plus installation, etc. etc. etc.
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However, see http://www.planet-9.com/212680-post9.html where Ken clarified the costs expectations. So, for example, I personally would not check the Sat Radio box knowing its going to cost $1K+ when it's easily done for $150 or less aftermarket (albeit not nice and pretty integrated). There are certainly examples to go by. You want an X51 type upgrade, I would be prepared to drop $18K easy plus installation, etc. etc. etc.

I read Ken's comments, but I think you misunderstood my point. In the case of the X51 you referenced I can hazard a guess as to what the approximate cost would be. What I was getting at is that in the case of the brakes I mentioned for instance Porsche could choose to offer a $10,000 ceramic brake package, or they could offer an upgrade that might cost half that. As you pointed out no reasonable person would expect the cost of an X51 package to vary that much percentage-wise. It's not going to be either $9,000 or $18,000. It's going to be around the $18 mark. I am interested in a $4 or $5,000 brake package, but not a $10,000 one. Thus, my dilemma in trying to decide whether to vote for it. My point was that for a few of these categories Porsche could likely go in a lot of different directions with potential offerings so it is harder to guess a price.
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I read Ken's comments, but I think you misunderstood my point. ...
I see what your saying. I'm just not sure how many different offerings they can make that make sense but I see where your heading with this.
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Just bumping a reminder to answer this survey if you have not already done so.
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