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View Poll Results: Select ALL items you would Definitely BUY if Porsche offered them via Tequipment
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LSD / TBD differential
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IPOD adapter/integration
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Engine Performance Modifications (X-51, etc.)
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Sport Seats ala GT2 / GT3 style harness compatible
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Suspension Upgrades: (springs, sway bars, camber plates, etc.)
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Bluetooth adapter/integration
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Aero Package: (full kit, carbon spoiler, Larger Wing, etc.)
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SAT Radio (XM or Sirius)
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Software Flashes (update/upgrade S/C, PASM and other options, etc.)
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Cage / half-cage / harness bar
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Brake Upgrade (PCCB, GT3, etc.)
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Revised Key (folding, more functions, etc.)
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Wheels (colored, lightweight, GT3-style, etc.)
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Mesh for grills
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Exhaust (Adaptive ala Capristo, Lightweight, etc.)
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12-29-2007, 12:19 AM
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Influence Porsche - Tequipment POLL - Step 2
Please vote in this poll to provide feedback to Porsche on what items you would like Tequipment to provide for the Cayman.
You can SELECT MULTIPLE ITEMS, but please selec ONLY those that you would DEFINITELY BUY.
I tried to make them as descriptive as possible and some options like suspension upgrade encompass multiple items. For example if you want camber plates that would fall under suspension, lower springs, suspension. You can look back through the results from our prior step 1 topic thread to get an idea about each selection here. These are the top 15 out of 30+ different category/item answers.
Step 1 topic is here: http://www.planet-9.com/cayman-cha...-step-1-a.html
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12-29-2007, 01:51 AM
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What an awesome poll, everyone should answer this!
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12-29-2007, 03:22 PM
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Yes, please keep the results coming, I'd like EVERYONE to vote!
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12-30-2007, 10:03 AM
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You didn't add upgraded (ie modern) audio system.
I think if PAG offered something of remote quality that ISN'T Bose and had modern technology, that almost everyone would choose it.
Though, it should just be standard.. with no upgrade avail. BMW's come standard with 10 speakers now! If Porsche offered something half as decent I don't think so many people would be pissed!
But as it stands right now... they should simple offer AM radio and nothing else untill they cant fix whatever audio problem exsist with their supplier or engineers. Possibly firing everyone who worked on the Caymans audio system/upgrade!
1) Sound deadening meterial/engine noise intrusion
2) Audio System
3) "CLunk" in the trunk delete option.
After that I would probably buy a Porsche and be worried about X51 option or DFI!
-Garrett
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DFI
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Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control. |
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12-30-2007, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Garrett
You didn't add upgraded (ie modern) audio system.
I think if PAG offered something of remote quality that ISN'T Bose and had modern technology, that almost everyone would choose it.
Though, it should just be standard.. with no upgrade avail. BMW's come standard with 10 speakers now! If Porsche offered something half as decent I don't think so many people would be pissed!
But as it stands right now... they should simple offer AM radio and nothing else untill they cant fix whatever audio problem exsist with their supplier or engineers. Possibly firing everyone who worked on the Caymans audio system/upgrade!
1) Sound deadening meterial/engine noise intrusion
2) Audio System
3) "CLunk" in the trunk delete option.
After that I would probably buy a Porsche and be worried about X51 option or DFI!
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Garrett,
If it had been one of the top 15 vote getters in the prior open-responses that came in it would have shown up on the list. Obviously some of the concerns are echoed in the ipod and bluetooth answers, but simply not enough people said trash the whole stereo setup and put in something else or that they'd be willing to do a complete rip and replace through tequipment. There as a separate audio/radio survey that was conducted last year, did you participate in that one?
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DFI
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Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control. |
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12-30-2007, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Man S
Garrett,
If it had been one of the top 15 vote getters in the prior open-responses that came in it would have shown up on the list. Obviously some of the concerns are echoed in the ipod and bluetooth answers, but simply not enough people said trash the whole stereo setup and put in something else or that they'd be willing to do a complete rip and replace through tequipment. There as a separate audio/radio survey that was conducted last year, did you participate in that one?
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I have not met one Porsche Cayman owner that is satisfied with their audio system. It is extremely sub-standard for any car, let-alone a car in this price range. The upgraded "BOSE" system is worse than stock.
Go sit in a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. Obviously not a premium brand and those Audio Systems have better accustics than the Cayman. They play MP3's and have usb/iPod connectivity.
I just think many, many Cayman owners simply overlooked their audio systems in the first POLL because Porsches are suppose to be finicky and low tech... right?
Fix whats wrong before offering upgrades!
-Garrett
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12-30-2007, 04:11 PM
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The location for auditory pleasure in a Cayman, is located behind the seats.
Ok, the engine does sound nice, but Porsche needs to upgrade the sound system, navigation, and have bluetooth, ipod, mp3, HD radio options available.
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12-30-2007, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Man S
You can SELECT MULTIPLE ITEMS, but please select ONLY those that you would DEFINITELY BUY.
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Definitely buy? Does that mean at any price?
I'm guessing your intended meaning is "definitely buy if the price seems reasonable or affordable", right?
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12-31-2007, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spindoc
Definitely buy? Does that mean at any price?
I'm guessing your intended meaning is "definitely buy if the price seems reasonable or affordable", right?
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Yes, or perhaps slightly tweaked to "Definitely buy at the anticipated price from Porsche Tequipment"
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01-08-2008, 08:59 AM
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Hey as a reminder if you haven't voted in this poll yet PLEASE VOTE!
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Originally Posted by Garrett
I have not met one Porsche Cayman owner that is satisfied with their audio system. It is extremely sub-standard for any car, let-alone a car in this price range. The upgraded "BOSE" system is worse than stock.
Go sit in a Chevy, Ford or Chrysler. Obviously not a premium brand and those Audio Systems have better accustics than the Cayman. They play MP3's and have usb/iPod connectivity.
I just think many, many Cayman owners simply overlooked their audio systems in the first POLL because Porsches are suppose to be finicky and low tech... right?
Fix whats wrong before offering upgrades!
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Hi Garrett, my name's Larry. Glad to meet you.
I am satisfied with the Bose audio system in my Cayman.
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I chose the X-51, assuming the price will not be ridiculous.
I would choose LSD. But I spoke with the dealership service manager about getting one put in and any effect on warranty. While he didn't see a direct warranty issue, he did say that the LSD isn't even available in the Carrera anymore, since the inclusion of PSM. Apparently, the combination of an LSD and some real grippy ties can encourage oil starvation to parts of the engine and then engine warranty comes into light. So, I do think that LSD is going to make its way into the factory add-on list.
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LSD - Limited Slip Differential
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
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PSM - Porsche Stability Management
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While it can’t overcome the laws of physics, the revolutionary Porsche Stability Management (PSM) system does lend an added degree of balance and control to the Cayman’s mid-engine driving dynamics, inspiring surefooted confidence in corners and extreme situations.
A standard feature on the Cayman and Cayman S, PSM continuously monitors steering input, road speed, yaw velocity and lateral acceleration to calculate the actual direction of travel. If the car begins to steer off line, PSM instantly intervenes with precision brake inputs on individual wheels to help bring the car back onto the driver’s intended path.
If braking alone isn’t enough to correct the vehicle’s cornering line, PSM then calls on the Cayman’s engine management system, adjusting engine output as needed to help stabilize handling. PSM can also compensate in an instant for mid-corner changes in load resulting from deceleration or braking. When Sport mode is selected with the optional Sport Chrono Package, PSM’s threshold for intervention is raised, allowing for greater driver involvement. If you prefer driving without automatic PSM assistance, the system can be set to standby at any time. In this case, it will only intervene under heavy braking, where both front wheels exceed the ABS threshold.
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Being a big and longtime B&O fan, I'd like Porsche to offer a serious B&O audio system option. I'd pay up to $3500 for the same.
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01-08-2008, 07:31 PM
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I think that one of the options on the pole should have been Lightweight interior. When I ordered my CS I think I ordered every performance option except for PCCB. If all the performance options in the pole were available you could build your own CSRS a la carte.
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01-09-2008, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Daytona
I think that one of the options on the pole should have been Lightweight interior. When I ordered my CS I think I ordered every performance option except for PCCB. If all the performance options in the pole were available you could build your own CSRS a la carte.
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Daytona,
the options on this poll came from the first open solicited answers from our members. If enough members had said "lightweight interior" it would have made it on the poll, but they did not so the items we have are the top mentions from our memberbase. Doesn't mean there aren't more things out there, just means not as many people requested them or said they would buy them that's all.
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01-10-2008, 06:49 PM
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Ken,
Suppose you would have been more than happy to buy one or more of the items (sport seats for example) from Porsche, but since they are not available directly from Porsche specifically for the Cayman you already went aftermarket. I guess then you answer "no" in the poll for those specific items because Porsche has already missed the sales by not offering the products when you were ready to buy?
Also, I can see that the price of some of the items in the poll (brake upgrade for instance) could vary significantly from member's expectations if offered by Porsche depending on what form the offerings take (PCCB vs. something less exotic), so I hope Porsche is aware if these offerings come in priced way over our member's expectations sales may be disappointing no matter what these polls say.
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Originally Posted by LowGator
... Also, I can see that the price of some of the items in the poll (brake upgrade for instance) could vary significantly from member's expectations if offered by Porsche depending on what form the offerings take (PCCB vs. something less exotic), so I hope Porsche is aware if these offerings come in priced way over our member's expectations sales may be disappointing no matter what these polls say.
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However, see http://www.planet-9.com/212680-post9.html where Ken clarified the costs expectations. So, for example, I personally would not check the Sat Radio box knowing its going to cost $1K+ when it's easily done for $150 or less aftermarket (albeit not nice and pretty integrated). There are certainly examples to go by. You want an X51 type upgrade, I would be prepared to drop $18K easy plus installation, etc. etc. etc.
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Originally Posted by chows4us
However, see http://www.planet-9.com/212680-post9.html where Ken clarified the costs expectations. So, for example, I personally would not check the Sat Radio box knowing its going to cost $1K+ when it's easily done for $150 or less aftermarket (albeit not nice and pretty integrated). There are certainly examples to go by. You want an X51 type upgrade, I would be prepared to drop $18K easy plus installation, etc. etc. etc.
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I read Ken's comments, but I think you misunderstood my point. In the case of the X51 you referenced I can hazard a guess as to what the approximate cost would be. What I was getting at is that in the case of the brakes I mentioned for instance Porsche could choose to offer a $10,000 ceramic brake package, or they could offer an upgrade that might cost half that. As you pointed out no reasonable person would expect the cost of an X51 package to vary that much percentage-wise. It's not going to be either $9,000 or $18,000. It's going to be around the $18 mark. I am interested in a $4 or $5,000 brake package, but not a $10,000 one. Thus, my dilemma in trying to decide whether to vote for it. My point was that for a few of these categories Porsche could likely go in a lot of different directions with potential offerings so it is harder to guess a price.
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Originally Posted by LowGator
I read Ken's comments, but I think you misunderstood my point. ...
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I see what your saying. I'm just not sure how many different offerings they can make that make sense but I see where your heading with this.
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Just bumping a reminder to answer this survey if you have not already done so.
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