Planet 9

Today I went to rialign my xenons since I have dropped my car with Eibachs.
And I discovered I made a level 5 overrev, quite some time ago.
This means my warranty is voided and cannot be restored. The computer has counted 176 misfires in that level. The fact is that the car runs great. Not a problem from the engine, I had the chance to reach max speed for quite some time and it just got better and more responsive after that.
The dealer told that he will try to put a good word for me with some German guys that are coming to make an inspection next wednsday and see if they can overlook that overrev. Chances are pretty small. He tried the car himself, in a very aggressive way. The engine is perfect. Very responsive, not a vibration even in sixth gear at 50 km/h.

If they say no, well I have to take into serious consideration the idea of selling it I suppose. And with the crisis and such I can't affort to buy a new one, I'll have to get some **** car, selling mine for a ridiculous price.

That's very sad.

Just forget about it and keep driving...

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I would. What if something breaks, though? Especially the engine.

I might try to find a way to erase it. I don't know if Porsche just relies on the data recorded by the computer or is able to tell the cause of an engine failure (if it will ever happen) through an in depth analysis of it and thus denying the warranty coverage...

Here's an idea. Keep driving the car and put some money each month into a savings account. When or more importantly IF the engine gives up the ghost you will probably have enough money left over to buy a NEW engine. No need to buy a whole car if you don't want to.

Not bad as an idea. Here is another, just to laugh at the situation.
Since I have Kasko insurance (I hope it traslates the same in English, it's an insurance that covers you regardless of the causes of the damage and will cover all the car's market value save for a small amount of money, like 650 euros if I recall correctly) I might destroy the car against a wall, or against a rock (better because I guess I'll have to pay for the wall aswell) and cash the market value of the car.
I would never have the heart to do such a thing.

I've got a level 5 over-rev, too. I also now have over 72k miles on my engine. Not a blip!

I know it's disheartening that it happened, but oh well. I've accepted it and that's that....

Be careful about what you say here - big brother Porsche is listening...they frequently read these discussions.

you can get very good treatment for paranoia now

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atlas grey cayman s 19"carrera s alloys bi-xenons etc:

How many level 5 over-revs do you have? If it's a lot - like in the thousands, then you probably do have a problem... otherwise, 178 ignitions in level 5 is inconsequential.

brad

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There is just one entry in level 5. The number the computer shows is a 176 which, I was told by the mechanic, represents engine misfires. Then there is the operating hour when the overrev occurred.

That's all I know.

P.S./OT do Softronic guys answer PMs or do you have to write them an email?

So, if you had no ignitions in level 4 and only 178 in level 5, and the Porsche tech said they were misfires, then I doubt Porsche will void your warranty. It makes no sense, and sounds like a DME reporting anomaly to me.

Send Sftronic a PM, Scott usually will answer them.

brad

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Vahrn: The technician calls the ignitions in range (not level) 5 "misfires", but they are actually completed ignitions. I didn't see where range 4 ignitions were zero as mentioned by beez above, but if that is the case, I don't know how ignitions could possibly get into range 5 without going through range 4 twice; on the way up into range 5, and then going back down from range 5.

Could you report here the actual ignitions in each range from the DME printout? The largest number of ignitions should be in range 1; the next largest number in range 2, etc. We've seen several strange looking readouts reported here; including several who had 1 ignition in each of the ranges.

I had some ignitions also in forth yes, I cannot recall the exact number, it was higher the the one in range 5. Sorry I don't have the printout, I just read the numbers on the screen.

Jim you are 100% correct there were two entries in range 4. Range 4 is unofficially tolerated he told me.

Can you explain what level 4 and level 5 misfires mean? Is this taking the car to redline?

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John

Is there a source for understanding the definition of each range within the over rev RPMs?

I think just hitting the rev limiter is Range 1....right?

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Kevin
2007 Cayman S........SOLD.

From the FAQs:

1 7,300 - 7,499 RPM
2 7,500 - 7,699 RPM
3 7,700 - 7,899 RPM

4 7,900 - 8,399 RPM
This ranges (and beyond) can only be achieved by a miss-downshift and these speeds are pushing the range of physical damage. Carefully inspect the number of ignition cycles that have been recorded in this area and get ready to walk.

5 8,400 - 9,499 RPM If the engine is still running, it is very likely that it's been seriously damaged and will likely suffer a premature death. Budget for a new engine. If you have over-revs in this range, don't expect warranty coverage.

6 9,500 - 11,000 RPM If the engine hit this range, it exploded. There is no way this thing is still running.

Man, you worry a lot. The engine has been checked out and driven by the dealer and it's fine? And you're worried? I'd perhaps think about getting something in writing that the engine is performing great right now. If you get melted valves in 2 years and they try to blame it on this over-rev incident, you can point to the fact that you took it in and the dealer tested it and it was fine.

I think these computer printouts are to protect Porsche from abuse incidents where the over-rev causes engine damage directly. Doesn't look to me like that happened.

I certainly would not sell the car because of this!!! It works great and you know it works great. Convicing a buyer of that will be difficult. Also, in this market, you're going to take a real beating. Buy low, sell high!

Just drive and enjoy. Don't over-rev anymore. That's generally done by hitting the wrong gear on a downshift and engaging the clutch. Don't do that, OK?

There's a big gage right in the middle of the dash. Pay attention and go in peace.

-Six

Here's a question to those who have reported that they show a level 5 over rev:

Do you recall missing a downshift? Like doing a downshift from 5th to 2nd (instead of 4th)?

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’08 Cayman S, 6 Speed, PASM, Sport Chrono, Sport Seats & Steering Wheel, 19” Carrera Sport Wheels, PCM, Bose, Xenon, plus some other stuff not worth mentioning

I don't necessarily agree with the description of each of those levels, they are a bit "cheeky" as it will be up to Porsche to determine what they will or won't do. One question I have is when did the overrev occur and did you own the car at that time? For example if the overrev occurred in say hour 3, meaning the 3rd hour the engine was run and it was still on the dealer's lot at that time, then I'd say the fault is with the dealer and they sold you a car with existing level 5 overrevs. However, if you owned the car when it occurred then yes it was from missing a shift and the fault does lay with you, although the number reported is pretty small and there may be no engine damage whatsoever.

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K-Man S

Will Durametric software give you over-rev data?

I'm just wondering if there's anyway to self check your car. I haven't ever missed a shift, but have wound up second gear quite a bit and have read you can hit up to level 2 - 3 by just hitting the limiter.

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