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06-22-2009, 01:17 PM
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I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Just jointed this site....wanted to say hello to everyone!
I very excited since i put down a deposit down on a 2010 cayman s. Always thought it would be a 911, but when i test drove the CS the choice was obvious.
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06-22-2009, 01:32 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Phew!!! Crisis averted.  Welcome to the club. This is a great site with a great group of people.
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06-22-2009, 01:42 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Excellent choise!!
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06-22-2009, 02:31 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Thanks, looking forward to all the great info here...
I still can't believe how different the base carerra felt compared to the cs. The dealer was really pressuring me to take his last 09 carerra on the lot, seemed like he didn't even want me to test drive the cayman s! Either way, he was pleased to make the sale, lol.
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06-22-2009, 07:52 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Congrats, and enjoy the CS. You should post what specifics caused you to choose the CS over the Carrera--I'm not saying either is a bad choice, but people will want to know your thinking.
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06-22-2009, 08:03 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Funny, same thing happened to me. Back to back test drives on the same curvy onramp. Cayman won hands down... felt more like a sportscar..
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06-22-2009, 08:07 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
I'm curious why, but FWIW I lost interest in the 911 years ago. Not sure why even. Maybe the styling? The rear end of the 911 seems to have grown uglier to my sense of aesthetics, perhaps to fit the larger engine? But it was the Cayman that instantly renewed my interest in Porsche.
I don't need the back seats and never really saw Porsche as the car to buy to be the "fastest". The appeal for me was always so many other factors including, a timeless style, handling, a sports car built with the quality and livability of a daily driver, and a heritage of something special going back as long as I've been alive. I think from the point of view of driver involvement it is hard to beat the mid engine design, a design I enjoyed for many years driving my much less powerful 914.
Enjoy your new Porsche. May it bring you many years of pleasure.
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06-22-2009, 08:33 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
If this was the dealer in Toronto near the 400/7 interchage it is a nice delaership.
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06-22-2009, 08:33 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
I drove the base 911 (pdk) first and i was surprised how well it hugged the road. However, when i drove the cs, i just felt like such a tight package, the control was unreal, the sound outstanding, i was having a blast during the test drive and the salesman knew i was SOLD. He was happier than i was! WHen i told him that the pricing between the 911 and the cs was reversed, he replied "porsche doesn't want you to know that!". Anyhow, we went inside and i ended up getting a carrera white exterior with carrera red leather inside, pdk, scp, limited slip, lights package, floor mats. I thought the red leather looked just stunning! Now if they would just give me a build date...he seemed nervous when he said i should expect delivery in september.
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06-22-2009, 08:36 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
yes it was as a matter of fact! I have to say, i was a little nervous about the whole experience, i was expecting them to nickel and dime me for all it's worth, you know, that "take it or leave it attitude, we're porsche!!", but they were pleasant and i even got a little something off the msrp. All in all a very enjoyable experience.
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06-22-2009, 08:36 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Originally Posted by ontario
Just jointed this site....wanted to say hello to everyone!
I very excited since i put down a deposit down on a 2010 cayman s. Always thought it would be a 911, but when i test drove the CS the choice was obvious.
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You'll see this story comes up quite often around here :-) It was the case for me, too!
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06-22-2009, 09:12 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
I'm questioning my choice re the LSD option....i always thought it was a necessity for the cayman but i keep reading on how weak it is. Any thoughts?
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
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06-22-2009, 10:00 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Ontario,
LSD was a good choice. On the other hand I was looking hard at the 911 and ended up with a CS. I think you will find that is common. Actually my buddy bought a Carrera S about the same time and always complements my CS. I told him we could trade but he needs the back seat. I think Porsche hit the curves spot on with the Cayman. Anyway you will not have any regrets. 
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LSD - Limited Slip Differential
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned |
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06-22-2009, 10:18 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Ontario, plus 1 to all these comments- I think the CS will wow you like you won't believe. You'll be hard-pressed not to drive it every day! And the LSD will definitely be a another plus!
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
To see the installation of a LSD style unit Click Here -> Article Forthcoming Stay Tuned |
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06-22-2009, 11:18 PM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Originally Posted by ontario
I drove the base 911 (pdk) first and i was surprised how well it hugged the road. However, when i drove the cs, i just felt like such a tight package, the control was unreal, the sound outstanding, i was having a blast during the test drive and the salesman knew i was SOLD. He was happier than i was! WHen i told him that the pricing between the 911 and the cs was reversed, he replied "porsche doesn't want you to know that!". Anyhow, we went inside and i ended up getting a carrera white exterior with carrera red leather inside, pdk, scp, limited slip, lights package, floor mats. I thought the red leather looked just stunning! Now if they would just give me a build date...he seemed nervous when he said i should expect delivery in september.
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Pfaff right? saw they had MY09 White/Red combo.....nice, congrats...
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06-23-2009, 12:00 AM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
CONGRATULATIONS and welcome to our club
Such comment is very common on this forum... but I truly would like to read about those who chose 911 over CS after test driving both. Are they as enthusiastic as we are about choosing one over the other? And what do they see disappointing about our gators?
Wondering if the Cayman can be one day equipped/powered like the GT2 & GT3 or even just a turbo version like the 911T, can the legacy of the 911 still compete with the Cayman?
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06-23-2009, 01:45 AM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Originally Posted by ontario
Just jointed this site....wanted to say hello to everyone!
I very excited since i put down a deposit down on a 2010 cayman s. Always thought it would be a 911, but when i test drove the CS the choice was obvious.
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A nice read so I'll add my story....
I too went looking hard over a couple of months for a 911 Carrera S. I couldn't stretch to a new one so test drove a few private sale Carreras and one or two through dealers ( but not Porsche centre). Frankly I was disappointed as they all seemed tired, thrashed and in less good condition overall than I was expecting to find. even more importantly not one had that "oompphh!" one expects from a Porsche. I had owned a Ferrari in the past and none of the cars came close to stirring the emotions as the Ferrari had.
I went back to my local Oman Porsche Centre asking them again if they had any 911's that fell under the Approved Used. The Sales Man took me to the basement where there was a wide selection of stored cars including a 2005 Carrera S in Guards Red. We haggled over the price but couldn't reach my budget and I felt they were asking way too much money. I know it was a trade in and they had paid over the odds to close the deal on a new Turbo. he suggested I lower my sights and buy a Boxster...he was expecting to close a deal on a 2007 any day now.
I said I needed the jump seats of a 911 but all the time we were haggling I couldn't help glancing time and time again at a Cobalt Blue Cayman S in the corner. On enquiring the price was again over my budget so I went off to a test drive in a new Audi TT coupe 2.FSi demonstrator . Whilst quite impressed I felt I needed more power and arranged a test with the 3.2 Quattro Coupe. I was more impressed with the 2.0FSi in terms of its responsiveness but it felt skittish and understeered rather too much with a very dead feel to the steering( as it would being front engine and front wheel drive). The Quattro was, frankly, disappointing. Smooth, torquey and powerful enough but somehow...inert!
No, I decided I was looking for a sports car that stirred the emotions and delivered that "oompphh!" when you wanted it but was docile and tractable in traffic. So I went back to have a second and more detailed look at the Cobalt Blue Cayman lurking in the basement that had reached out to me. I couldn't fault the car and asked for a test drive. Wisely, because although I may have been born at night, I wasn't born last night, I negotiated a price on the vehicle that I was happy to stretch my budget to...subject to being completely satisfied with the history, condition and performance of the car, otherwise I'd be going straight back to the Audi dealership for the Quattro (not exactly true, of course, but in today's market it helps to make the dealers feel some pressure from a serious buyer) and it certainly helped me close the deal at US13,000/- less than the asking price. I guess they know they'll recoup on the servicing over time.
Deal struck accordingly, the salesman drove us off into a fairly open road with little traffic and I jumped in. The Troggs classic "Wild Thing! You make my heart sing!" immediately started playing in my mind and I was completely sold. This little beauty craves to be driven and stirs my emotions in just the way I was looking for.
I closed the deal before we had returned to the dealership. Paid them cash next morning.
Such poise, such balance, such responsiveness, such dynamism, such feel, such feedback, such symphony.
I have only a few miles on her but what Joy!! I look forward to exploring further afield and engaging with her in a way that can only be experienced with a car of such pedigree.
I am one happy camper and I am sure you will be too.
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06-23-2009, 05:57 AM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Originally Posted by ontario
Anyhow, we went inside and i ended up getting a carrera white exterior with carrera red leather inside, pdk, scp, limited slip, lights package, floor mats. I thought the red leather looked just stunning!er.
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now you just need the carrera wheels and you'll have the best of the carrera within your cayman.
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06-23-2009, 07:07 AM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
actually i forgot to mention i did add the 19" Carrera S II wheels!
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06-23-2009, 07:10 AM
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Re: I went in to buy a carerra and came out with a cayman s!!
Yes it was love at first site when i saw it in the pfaff dealership....i think my wife was a little jealous. Speaking of the wife...she wanted nothing to do with the Cayman s, until she was finally convinced to try it by the salesman- after a short test drive it was a no brainer for the two of us.
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