Planet 9

**josephsdesimone** · #1 09-22-2006, 10:21 PM

I saw a recent thread quoting some lap times for Cayman S's and 911's at the ring. I just read an article today that put a BMW 335i Twin Turbo at 1.17.8 and the BMW M3 at 1.16.3. How does this compare (ignoring temperature, track condition and etc.)? Thank you, Joe

beez · #2 09-22-2006, 10:49 PM

great, a double post - sorry

Edited by - beez on 09/22/2006 4:51:05 PM

beez · #3 09-22-2006, 10:50 PM

That car wold have to be going 1000 mph - most times around the 'Ring (Nordschleife- the north loop) are in the 7-8 minute range for a pretty darn fast car... something's wrong here, Joseph.

Brad

**josephsdesimone** · #4 09-22-2006, 11:34 PM

I'm sorry, I should have known better. The article was in www.autospies.com and I wasn't reading carefully enough. The story readsas follows:

The new bi-turbo[/quote] 3 series coupe shows some impressive numbers on Nurburgring.

Lap time Nordschleife 8.26 min (4 seconds slower than M3)

Lap time Hockenheim 1.17,8 min (0,8 seconds faster than C55 and 1.5 seconds slower than M3)

0-100km/h 5.6 sec

0-200km/h 20,7 sec

36m slalom: 130km/h (M3 123km/h, C55 122km/h)

110m change lane: 136km/h (M6 137km/h, M3 136km/h, C55 134km/h)

Wet track: 1.36,8 min (M5 E60 1.36, 7min)

G-powers: 1.15g (C55, 1,10g and M3 1.10g)[/quote][/quote]

Does anyone have comparable numbers for the Cayman S? Thanks again, Joe

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**alex911s** · #5 09-23-2006, 01:43 AM

The cayman S is in a different league as far as lap times, lookat the cars it beat[img]/fckeditor/editor/images/smiley/MWPX/beer2.gif[/img]

Of course that's if Rohl is driving , i it was me it'll be 30 mins..hahaha

Top laptimes at the Nürburgring Nordschleife:

7:28 — 166.652 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, Walther Röhrl,(Autobild July 2004)

7:32.00 — Pagani Zonda F, Sport Auto Magazine

7:32.44 163.911 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, definitive time Horst Von Saurma (sport auto 01/2004)

7:32.52 163.882 km/h — Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 EVO, Wolfgang Kaufmann

7:36 — 162.631 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 hp, Michelin Sport Cup R , Mattias Ekblom

7:36 — 162.631 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther Röhrl (2002)

7:39 — 161.575 km/h — Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Corvette Z06 Blue Devil, 600 PS/ 1419.7 kg (estimated), Jan Magnusen (AutoBild 7/2005)

7:40* — 161.217 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)

7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)

7:41 — 160.868 km/h – Manthey Porsche GT3 M410, 413hp (AutoBild 07/2004)

7:42 — 160.519 km/h — Mosler MT900S Photon, Joao Barbosa, 2004 (according to dailysportscar.net)

7:42 — 160.519 km/h — Radical 1500 SR3, 230 PS/510 kg (2002)

7:43 — 160.173 km/h — TechArt Porsche GT Street, 620 PS/1453 kg, (sport auto 08/2002)

7:43 — 160.173 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Röhrl (MOTOR Magazine)

7:43.5 - 160,000 km/h — Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 2002)

7:44 — 159.828 km/h — Pagani Zonda C12 S, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 07/2002)

7:45 — 159.484 km/h — Gemballa Porsche GTR 600, 600hp (2000)

7:45* — 159.484 km/h — McLaren F1 * Estimated laptime

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — Porsche 996 GT2, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — Jaguar XJ220, John Walton (EVO magzine)

7:46 — 159.142 km/h — SHK Porsche 993 GT2, 652hp (sport auto 1999)

7:47 — 158.801 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 RS, 381hp (sport auto 03/2004)

7.49 — 158.124 km/h — Porsche GT3, 392hp (AutoBild 2004)

7:49 — 158.124 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 Cup, 360 PS/1207 kg (sport auto 02/1999)

7:49.72 157.885 km/h — Honda RC30, Helmut Daehne 1993 (moto bike)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — BMW E46 M3 CSL (sport auto 08/2003)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — Blitz Supra, 750hp, Herbert Schürg (1997)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h — Lamborghini Murcielago, 462 PS/1450 kg (sport auto 06/2002)

7:50 — 157.787 km/h – Westfield Super 7 with Hayabusa engine

7:52 — 157.119 km/h – BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Gemballa Porsche 911 Le Mans (sport auto 1995)

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (sport auto 12/2003)

7:52 — 157.119 km/h — Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)

7:54 — 156.456 km/h – Mercedes CLK DTM AMG, 582bPS/1678kg, (sport auto 03/2005)

7:54 — 156.456 km/h — Porsche 996 GT3 (sport auto 06/2003)

7:55 — 156.126 km/h — Caterham R500 Superlight, Robert Nearn (EVO magazine 07/2000)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, 425 PS/1387 kg (sport auto 02/2004)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Porsche 996 Turbo, 420 PS/1569 kg (sport auto 06/2000)

7:56 — 155.798 km/h — Chevrolet Corvette C6 (company test driver Dave Hill)

7:57 — 155.472 km/h — Lotec Porsche 993 Turbo, 600PS/1558 kg (sport auto 05/1998)

7:59 — 154.822 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Performance‿, (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

7:59 — 154.822 km/h — Nissan Skyline R33 GT-R, Dirk Schoymans (Autocar magazine 1997)

8:02 — 154.338 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM setting “Sport‿, (Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/ 2004)

8:03 — 153.540 km/h — Porsche 911 GT3, 360 PS/1391 kg (sport auto 08/1999)

8:04 — 153.223 km/h — Lamborghini Diablo GT, 575 PS/1620 kg (sport auto 07/2000)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Ferrari 575M Maranello F1, 580 PS/1820 kg (sport auto 12/2002)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, PASM settino “Standard‿, Walter Röhrl (WHEELS 06/2004)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera S, 355PS/1461kg (sport auto 05/2005)

8:05 — 152.907 km/h – Ruf CTR

8:06 — 152.592 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)

8:06 — 152.592 km/h — Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn

8:07 — 152.279 km/h – Ferrari 550 Maranello, 485 PS/1724 kg (sport auto 06/1998)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Honda NSX-R, 320 PS/1467 kg (sport auto 08/2002)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Ferrari 360 Modena , 400 PS/1464 kg (sport auto 10/1999)

8:09 — 151.656 km/h — Lamborghini Diablo SV, 520 PS/1590 kg (sport auto 12/1997)

8:10 — 151.114 km/h – Aston Martin V8 Vantage (Top Gear feb,2005)

8:10 — 151.114 km/h — Chrysler Viper GTS, 411 PS/1567 kg (sport auto 10/1997)

8:10 — 151.347 km/h — Donkervoort D8 180R, 210 PS/650 kg (sport auto 03/2001)

8:11 — 151,274 km/h – Porsche Cayman S, 295 PS/1340 kg, test driver Walter Roehrl (sport auto 07/2005)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG, 476 PS/1651 kg (sport auto 04/2002)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Porsche 993 Turbo (sport auto 03/1997)

8:12 — 150.732 km/h — Porsche 993 Turbo works tuning (sport auto 06/1997)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg (sport auto 12/2004)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS/1324 kg (sport auto 05/1999)

8:13 — 150.426 km/h — Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 hp (sport auto, 10/2004)

8:14 — 150.120 km/h – Mercedes SL 65 AMG, 612 PS/2049 kg (sport auto 01/2005)

8:15 — 149.818 km/h – Alpina Roadster S, 300 PS/1416 kg (sport auto 6/2005)

8:15* — 149.818 km/h — Holden GTS (2000), *estimated

8:15 — 149.818 km/h — Porsche 997 Carrera 2 (Walter Röhrl - WHEELS 06/2004)

8:15 — 149.818 km/h — Ruf 911 CTR 2, 520 hp

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — AC-Schnitzer M3 CLS II E36, 350 PS (sport auto 11/1997)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — AC-Schnitzer V8 Topster, 450 PS/1557kg (sport auto 01/2005)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — Aston Martin DB9, 457hp (sport auto 11/2004)

8:16 — 149.516 km/h — Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (best motoring video 14)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Aston Martin V12 Vanquish, 515 PS/1775 kg (sport auto 01/2003)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Porsche 911 Carrera, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 06/2001)

8:17 — 149.215 km/h — Porsche 996 Carrera 2, 320 PS/1399 kg (sport auto 02/2001)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — BMW Z8, 400PS/1651 kg (sport auto 08/2000)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — Chevrolet Corvette Z05 Commemorative Edition, 344 PS (sport auto 09/2003)

8:18 — 149.916 km/h — Ferrari F355, 380 PS/1350 kg (sport auto 06/1997

Edited by - alex911s on 09/22/2006 7:44:44 PM

**K-Man S** · #6 09-23-2006, 01:59 AM

Shows that the track really favors cars with high horsepower, although I have a hard time believing the M5 time despite its horsepower number. Faster than a 996 Turbo and 360 Challenge Stradale? I don't think so, not any M5 I've ever seen.

Anyway figure a stock Cayman at around 8:11 and a lightly modified Cayman is going to come in right around 8 minutes flat. It would be interesting to know what that one Cayman race car was turning in the 24 hours of the Ring this year. Anyone know?

chows4us · #7 09-23-2006, 02:04 AM

Shows that the track really favors cars with high horsepower, although I have a hard time believing the M5 time despite its horsepower number.

The M5 was most likely driven by Hans Stucker. If you've ever seen the M3 video going around the net with Hans driving ... I'd believe it. That guy is good ...