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05-06-2008, 06:44 PM
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Nothing compares to a Cayman Drive under 100K
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In a quest to get a 4 door sedan , I tried Bmw m3 sedan( great motor, great handling , sits too high) , 335 , 135 coupe and In that also got to try audi tt, MB SLK 55 AMG for the kick of it
Once you drive all of them and come back to CS u will realize how good the CS is
The steering, Handling, Grip and the sports car planted feel of cS is just awesome. The gearbox of the CS is rifle bolt like compared to beamers which were way mushy.
I am not sure how ferraris etc feel but CS is one of the finest sports car under 100K and it is so comfortable on bad roads with PASM in Normal mode
Enjoy the CS
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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05-07-2008, 07:30 AM
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A nice used 996Gt3 is in the low 70s, that trumps a CS. A lot of Z06 owners would disagree also.
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05-07-2008, 07:50 AM
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Try a new well optioned CTS with DFI, it will get rid of a lot of biases towards GM cars. The upcoming CTS-V will be nice too, but it is not out yet and seems a bit overkill to me.
Let me know what you think of it, remember, drive one with DFI, the rest will disappoint you when coming from a CS.
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DFI
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Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control. |
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05-07-2008, 08:27 AM
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I'm surprised there are two replies already and no one has mentioned the obvious: GT-R. It is <$100K and the only real debate is whether anything <$200K is better than the GT-R.
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05-07-2008, 08:33 AM
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The GT-R isn't really available. Only 2400 units are coming to the US. Good luck buying one, and I bet you'd pay $100K if you could find one for sale.
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05-07-2008, 10:21 AM
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Well I am going to be the first to Agree SMJC_99  .The only car I would Seriously trade for is the Audi R-8 and its over 100K as well.The Cayman for the $$$$ Is the BEST car you can buy. But the fun is fixing it up to ones own personal palet Thats why I need the CC.
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05-07-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 'ringmeister
A nice used 996Gt3 is in the low 70s, that trumps a CS. A lot of Z06 owners would disagree also.
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If they gave the Cayman the power it deserves, say somewhere between 400 and 500hp, it would trump anything in my book. Of course, such a car would cost more than 70 grand.
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05-07-2008, 10:50 AM
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I think that as with just about anything, it depends upon what you value, and the situation in which you use your car.
The Lotus Elise I had before the CS was a more involving, more fun pure sports car for me (emphasis on 'for me') than is the Cayman S. Having driven both, it's no contest. With less than 2000 lbs of mass, the Lotus was nothing but smiles on curvy back roads and the track . The steering feel and handling in that car is nothing short of astounding.
The Lotus, however, was virtually impossible to live with on a day-to-day basis. Once we moved to LA from upstate NY and could no longer just carpool to a train station in our other car, the Lotus had to go. Too low, too small, too fragile, crappy radio, crappier AC, no storage space, virtually no low range torque, marginal build quality...it goes on and on.
For my wife and I, the 6-speed Cayman S is the perfect sports car our current situation and we absolutely love it. Terrific powertrain, sufficient low-end torque, fantastic shifter, modern interior appointments, tons of storage space...and if we care to take it out for a track day or two, it's ready. This is a car we can live with. The '99 M Coupe we had back before the Lotus was terrific, but this is so much better.
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05-07-2008, 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by boobernackle
Try a new well optioned CTS with DFI, it will get rid of a lot of biases towards GM cars. The upcoming CTS-V will be nice too, but it is not out yet and seems a bit overkill to me.
Let me know what you think of it, remember, drive one with DFI, the rest will disappoint you when coming from a CS.
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Perhaps its just me, but I dont think you can compare a CS to a CTS!!!
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DFI
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Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
The direct injection process is continuously adjusted. The engine management system reads changes to throttle inputs and performance requirements and, as you drive, the air/fuel mix is monitored and adapted as required. Oxygen sensor circuits within the exhaust system provide accurate emissions control. |
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05-07-2008, 06:44 PM
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the old lotus exige is considered the best handling car in the world, and due to its "go-kartness" its cheaper then the cayman
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05-08-2008, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by looper_1234
the old lotus exige is considered the best handling car in the world, and due to its "go-kartness" its cheaper then the cayman
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I dunno, I think it was Motor Trend who recently went looking for the best handling car in America, and it wasn't the Exige. I believe they had two Porsches at the top. So much depends on the venue you are talking about also. On a tight autocross course, the Exige would shine, but at the Daytona International Speedway, maybe not so much.
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05-08-2008, 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by smjc_99
Once you drive all of them and come back to CS u will realize how good the CS is
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Couldn't agree more, the CS has yet to dissapoint me.
The only car that I would think of replacing it with is the 997T, and well thats in a completely different price bracket.
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05-08-2008, 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wushuhsu
Wow, not only faster, but also more exclusive than the Cayman S!
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More exclusive yes, but with most dealers marking up way above MSRP most are not selling below $100,000.
I paid $57k for my CS after negotiation, nearly half the price.
Wushuhsu, I have read a number of your recent postings, is there anything about the Cayman that you like.
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05-10-2008, 01:39 PM
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The Rossion Q1 is made by its new home company in Ohio. If it is finished to the degree that they advertise, we will be hearing much much more about this new American sports car that will out perform any existing road sports car for a little under $100,000 USD. I think this car will probably replace the CS as the best value, dollar for dollar for a hi performance sports car. Ask any professional race tech how much it would cost to buy or modify a sportscar to this hi quality level of road and track performance. Many here will try to dismiss this car because of its small and limited production numbers and support system. But how else does a new American success story start but by being small, and limited and with excellent design and quality?
Rossion – Reviews
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With a power to weight ratio of better than 400 HP per ton, the Q1 moves beyond just being quick. Make sure that the steering wheel is pointed straight, as response to the throttle is immediate. Get control of the wheel spin, and 60 flashes by in not more than 3.3 seconds. Hang on and keep shifting for a quarter mile pass in 11.4 seconds at over 123 mph. Compare those times with your neighbor’s Enzo, or your buddy’s Carrera GT.
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05-10-2008, 07:11 PM
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Totally agree 1000%.Great daily driver. Great weekend track car.Killer reliability.Extensive dealer service network. Tons of storage space for an exotic.Exclusivity.Looks like it cost 3 times as much. It's a Porsche. Buy an Borla exhaust and a Softronic and you are deep into 911 territory for an extra 4 grand. After mods I will have a nicely equiped CS for about 61K(not counting 19s).What's to compare?Slam dunk in my book. Love the car.
Love the GT3 -any GT3- my dream car- used or otherwise. But IMHO a track toy not a daily.
If weekend toy or track car- give it the edge.
IMO I think the GT R looks awful.I would have doubts about long term reliability. Dealers are having to invest a fortune in equipment if they qualify to service it. Finding one at 70k is a pipe dream. Buy one if you like it but I will pass.
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