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07-18-2008, 11:43 PM
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porsche cayman vs audi tt-s vs. 135i
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07-19-2008, 12:18 AM
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Strange that they pick the turbo version of both the Audi TT and the BMW 135i, to test against the standard, non 'S' version of the Porsche Cayman. The standard Cayman still won the comparison, and I agree completely with the writer that the standard Cayman is one of the most brilliantly balanced, everyday drivers ever made anywhere. Congrats to the standard Cayman!! 
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07-19-2008, 03:20 AM
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Nicely done to the Cayman - again! 
They choose the 2.7 over the S purely because of price - for example - there would be no point comparing the M3 against the 430 Scuderia - although both arguably offer the sportiest of each manufacturers offerings.
The idea is to give a selection of cars within a limited (ish) budget range - well at least, that's how I interpret it 
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07-19-2008, 05:20 AM
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This is why I want one.
"The Porsche is involving, engaging and absorbing, and the sole car among this trio that informs you, at all times, of what it is doing."
To bad I drive a Audi.
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07-19-2008, 07:00 AM
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Hmmm, the price quoted is for the S, but the other specs are for the non-S. Sigh ... Another under-informed automotive writer. You don't see too many base Caymans with 19" wheels, so maybe it was an S. Oh well, at least they reached the right conclusion!
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07-19-2008, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SCOPPOLA
Hmmm, the price quoted is for the S, but the other specs are for the non-S. Sigh ... Another under-informed automotive writer. You don't see too many base Caymans with 19" wheels, so maybe it was an S. Oh well, at least they reached the right conclusion!
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no, it's a base cayman, not an "S" model. You can tell by the exhaust tip.
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07-19-2008, 09:49 AM
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The 135 reminds me of a hyundai tiburon or something 
I do like the latest version of the audi tt though!
Easy call on which is the winner
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07-19-2008, 10:30 AM
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What a garbage review.
Sorry, as others have already said, why publish something when we
can't get a simple thing like the PRICE of the cars correct !?!?!?!?! Given
it colored the rest of the article so much, this one "small" error to me
negates the entire article.
Either the guy needs to rewrite a bunch of it, with the price info corrected...
Or he should rewrite the entire thing, testing a Cayman S vs the other two.
To me it's quite clear that since the Cayman won out anyhow, the Cayman S
would have changed the complextion of the article so much that he'd have
to start from scratch - since he went on about power so much.
Imagine what would have happened if he had a Cayman S with PASM to
test. Indeed.
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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07-19-2008, 11:35 AM
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... the price quoted is for the S...
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It was an article written in the UK. The price quotes are for the UK but converted into USD for USA publication. Almost everything is much much cheaper in the USA, including Porsches. In the USA, a Porsche's MSRP price is actually LESS than what the Porsche employees in Germany pay with their famous special employee discounts.
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07-19-2008, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodhii
It was an article written in the UK. The price quotes are for the UK but converted into USD for USA publication. Almost everything is much much cheaper in the USA, including Porsches. In the USA, a Porsche's MSRP price is actually LESS than what the Porsche employees in Germany pay with their famous special employee discounts.
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I was aware that it is a UK article, and how lucky we are to get our p-cars "cheap" but the Cayman base price there is $72K (36220 GBP)!
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07-19-2008, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodhii
It was an article written in the UK. The price quotes are for the UK but converted into USD for USA publication.
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Bodhi - I must respectfully disagree. The UK price for an S is 44.5k GBP if
I'm not mistaken - that's nigh on $US90k. Given, that's with VAT included,
so unless VAT is 50%, your assertion is not correct. Besides, the article
does not offer some number that is near the base price of the CS, it
quotes the exactly correct US base price for a CS - but the article is about
a C.
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07-19-2008, 05:52 PM
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SCOPPOLA & Wayne, yeah, I agree with you guys. I originally thought that the writer probably just made a simple mistake on Cayman models, and was using the USA Cayman S price. But when I noticed it was a UK article, I just figured that the correct UK prices were lost in various conversion tables.
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07-20-2008, 06:16 AM
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Irrespective of the pricing, are there people who would actually cross-shop a 135 to the Cayman? The Porsche is a sports car, and the Bimmer a very small two door sedan. To me, you would want one or the other, but never consider both.
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07-20-2008, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Cliffh93
Irrespective of the pricing, are there people who would actually cross-shop a 135 to the Cayman? The Porsche is a sports car, and the Bimmer a very small two door sedan. To me, you would want one or the other, but never consider both.
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I have to admit I've thought about checking out the 135...not b/c I'm bored of my CS or think it would be better, but w/ a kid on the way, it would be a way for the whole family to get to travel in a fun to drive vehicle.
I think the 135 seems like a great option for someone who wants a sports car, but needs the added practicality of a back seat.
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08-14-2008, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris S
I have to admit I've thought about checking out the 135...not b/c I'm bored of my CS or think it would be better, but w/ a kid on the way, it would be a way for the whole family to get to travel in a fun to drive vehicle.
I think the 135 seems like a great option for someone who wants a sports car, but needs the added practicality of a back seat.
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and therein lies really the ONLY reason i think people buy the m3...135...etc. because they are getting a sporty car, but can fit kids or clients in the rear. bmw is not sports car though...esp not anymore. they continue to water down cars with weight and electronics. along with their idrive system, their new servetronic steering is absolute garbage! they should be ashamed of it.
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08-14-2008, 09:48 AM
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I had a BMW 135i on order. It was already at the port in LA when I bought a pre-owned 2008 Cayman after a long search (almost gave up as I couldn't find the car I wanted in my budget).
It's much more of a sports car than all other current BMWs. In fact, a couple of Cayman owners that got sucked in by the Cayman's great looks and Porsche heritage might be better served by a BMW 135i (if they are honest).
That said, every time I get into my Cayman life couldn't be better for me.
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