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Was up in CT at college for alumni weekend. here is a run of my Cayman S with remus exhaust vs a stock mustang bullitt (belongs to a friend).
both cars had one passenger...race is from ~45 to ~100 or so.
in case you didnt know...the bullitt is a 4.8 liter v8 with 315 hp and 325 lb/ft.
I'm confused as to why someone would post pics on that other website and not here? Is there something wrong with our gallery or forums picture capabilities?
I'm confused as to why someone would post pics on that other website and not here? Is there something wrong with our gallery or forums picture capabilities?
Ken, if you look at the post on the other forum you'll see that pics are posted by Mustang owner - he probably isn't a member here
Interesting. I've driven two Bullitt mustangs (both stock), with one time being back to back with my CS. I think your friend has a slow Bullitt. Not that the Bullitt is faster than a CS, but it should have easily kept pace with you even with the Remus. Turns are a different matter though.
Funny the V8 gets totally silenced by the sheer roar of your Cayman
absolutely! hes a very good friend of mine...one of my best friends from college and knows a lot about cars. he loved the sound of the remus, said it sounded great, and very exotic sounding.
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Interesting. I've driven two Bullitt mustangs (both stock), with one time being back to back with my CS. I think your friend has a slow Bullitt. Not that the Bullitt is faster than a CS, but it should have easily kept pace with you even with the Remus. Turns are a different matter though.
it was def a good race, very equal being as the cayman S is much lighter, but the bullitt has much more displacement, and 75 lb/ft of tq more. he also has a 2007 GT 500 which pulls pretty damn hard, i would need the 996TT cab to beat that!
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Oh my God man.... Racing on the street.... WTH is wrong with you. Bad member....!
OK, with that behind me, let me comment. That was a pretty cool test and turned out pretty much how I expected. However, I expected the Mustang to deliver a stronger fight down low from 45 - 90.
Now if you guys had done that on a closed course where you could have at it without limits, you would have found that the faster the cars go, the wider the advantage for the Cayman S. From 100 mph on, the Cayman S will leave the Stang for dead and with every 10 mph the advantage widens. By 120, a Cayman S would run away so fast that you might think that something went terribly wrong in the Ford's engine. (I have a couple of close friends with Mustangs and know a guy who went at it with one on the highway.)
The Mustang has more power, and a LOT more torque. So what gives? First of all, a Remus equipped Cayman S is pretty close in BHP. Down low the Mustang's extra weight is using up the extra torque. Up high, the wide difference in drag coefficients just kills the Mustang (0.29 vs. 0.39).
The Mustang GT is a fast car that deserves respect. But a properly driven Cayman S will toast even the modified variants. When you compare price tags, the Ford delivers a lot more bang for the buck, but it's a one trick pony in comparison (pun intended).
Oh my God man.... Racing on the street.... WTH is wrong with you. Bad member....!
OK, with that behind me, let me comment. That was a pretty cool test and turned out pretty much how I expected. However, I expected the Mustang to deliver a stronger fight down low from 45 - 90.
Now if you guys had done that on a closed course where you could have at it without limits, you would have found that the faster the cars go, the wider the advantage for the Cayman S. From 100 mph on, the Cayman S will leave the Stang for dead and with every 10 mph the advantage widens. By 120, a Cayman S would run away so fast that you might think that something went terribly wrong in the Ford's engine. (I have a couple of close friends with Mustangs and know a guy who went at it with one on the highway.)
The Mustang has more power, and a LOT more torque. So what gives? First of all, a Remus equipped Cayman S is pretty close in BHP. Down low the Mustang's extra weight is using up the extra torque. Up high, the wide difference in drag coefficients just kills the Mustang (0.29 vs. 0.39).
The Mustang GT is a fast car that deserves respect. But a properly driven Cayman S will toast even the modified variants. When you compare price tags, the Ford delivers a lot more bang for the buck, but it's a one trick pony in comparison (pun intended).
i dont really ever 'street race' but occasionally it happens. im very good at wringing the CS out, but it would have been nice to hit 120+ mph...as you can see from the video, i was def starting to pull away before he let off.
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I never street race. In our area (Southern California) we have had many recent deaths of kids from this practice. How can you promote it on this site by not objecting to the post, Ken? You always object to a post for a product placement from a vendor that is not a sponsor, but street racing with video to prove it is OK?
I'm confused.
Sorry if this is too critical, but I think it is important. I track my car and bought it to do so because I realized driving fast on the street was wrong. That is why they write tickets for it.
I never street race. In our area (Southern California) we have had many recent deaths of kids from this practice. How can you promote it on this site by not objecting to the post, Ken? You always object to a post for a product placement from a vendor that is not a sponsor, but street racing with video to prove it is OK?
I'm confused.
Sorry if this is too critical, but I think it is important. I track my car and bought it to do so because I realized driving fast on the street was wrong. That is why they write tickets for it.
+1, I agree. s2ki even has a "Street Encounters" section, and their condoning of street racing attracting a less mature user base IMO. Something to think about as the Cayman getting cheaper in the resale market. I'd hate to see Cayman Club devolve into a bunch of tales about street racing conquests.
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I never street race. In our area (Southern California) we have had many recent deaths of kids from this practice. How can you promote it on this site by not objecting to the post, Ken? You always object to a post for a product placement from a vendor that is not a sponsor, but street racing with video to prove it is OK?
I'm confused.
Sorry if this is too critical, but I think it is important. I track my car and bought it to do so because I realized driving fast on the street was wrong. That is why they write tickets for it.
Naybor,
You're correct, and street racing should never be condoned, if not fully shunned. But this doesn't have to come from Ken or us Moderators. I was waiting for someone to say something. I'm actually surprised that it took so long. I encourage all members to share their opinions. The Cayman Club is a community, not a social hierarchy. Feel free to show your disapproval.
Good point, Gator. Thanks for the support. I don't want to be a buzz kill, but just thought I should voice it. You are right, it has nothing to do with Ken. His response was really just about how to use the site.
For the record, I agree with you. I used to vehemently chastise every racing post. I guess they broke me. I still disagree with the practice, I've just grown tired of fighting it. Thanks for bringing up something that should have been addressed....
Now if you guys had done that on a closed course where you could have at it without limits, you would have found that the faster the cars go, the wider the advantage for the Cayman S. From 100 mph on, the Cayman S will leave the Stang for dead and with every 10 mph the advantage widens. By 120, a Cayman S would run away so fast that you might think that something went terribly wrong in the Ford's engine. (I have a couple of close friends with Mustangs and know a guy who went at it with one on the highway.)
This fact is a love hate thing for me. A lot of cars seem to hit barriers at speeds of 100,120,140, etc. I really love the fact that I haven't yet got to a point where the CS feels like its "out of juice". I know that I could walk away from most cars out there at those upper speeds...but I can count on one hand the number of times I've actually had the CS in definate "lose my license" territory. I do wish that my car had a bit more acceleration in the legal range of speeds though, but thats why Aftermarket Exhaust is in the works for next spring .
Oh my God man.... Racing on the street.... WTH is wrong with you. Bad member....!
I agree 100% with this - go to a track!
Originally Posted by Gator Bite
The Mustang has more power, and a LOT more torque. So what gives? First of all, a Remus equipped Cayman S is pretty close in BHP. Down low the Mustang's extra weight is using up the extra torque. Up high, the wide difference in drag coefficients just kills the Mustang (0.29 vs. 0.39).
2) A Remus-equipped Cayman S will be very close to the Mustang's 315 HP, and the Cayman S is much lighter, so the Cayman S should accelerate harder.
3) The drag coefficient is irrelevant. What matters is the "drag area". The drag area is the product of the drag coefficient and the frontal area. Since a Cayman has a MUCH smaller frontal area than a Mustang, its aerodynamic advantage is much larger than a comparison of drag coefficients would indicate. That's why the Cayman S runs away from the Mustang at higher speeds.
I have owned both of these cars. You can definitely feel the difference in the low end on the Bullitt. I traded a Bullitt for a Cayman S and one thing I missed was being able to pull away in 2nd in the Bullitt with such ease. In the Cayman S, lower speeds/crawling were a more tricky operation (but by no means difficult).
I drove both at high speeds, but I never got as fast in the Bullitt as I did in my Cayman S. That's not to say the Bullitt was all over the place at higher speeds, it just wasn't as secure of a feeling as in the Cayman S. The Bullitt simply couldn't get there as fast as the CS. On the low end, the Bullitt keeps right up but once you hit triple digits, it's no contest. Not only is the CS more aerodynamic, it's confidence inspiring and that is one of those things you can't measure. It just feels better at high speed.
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