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06-05-2009, 10:52 AM
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Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Since the caliper mounts so simply...what I'll call semiradially...seems it would be easy to install a larger rotor while retaining the original caliper, with a spacer, new screws, perhaps with a few new fittings, etc. Does anyone know of such a system? I'd LOVE bigger front brakes, but I'm not yet ready to spend US$3K+ on a, say, Brembo system from LPI... porsche brembo: porsche brake kit - porsche brake upgrade - porsche big brake - porsche brake conversion
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06-06-2009, 02:16 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Exactly - they are radially mounted so it is extraordinarily easy to install a *properly engineered* larger rotor setup.
PORSCHE CAYMAN ROTOR PACKAGES
SIZE:
Front: Factory 317 mm/GiroDisc 340 mm
Rear: Factory 298 mm/GiroDisc 325 mm
WEIGHT:
Front: Factory 19.85 lbs./GiroDisc 17.25 lbs.
Rear: Factory 14.0 lbs./GiroDisc 15.00 lbs.
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The GiroDiscs make the most sense:
Price: Under $2300 for a COMPLETE 4 CORNER Cayman S setup
Performance: No more holed rotors, slotted last MUCH longer + floating design + larger diameter for additional thermal capacity
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08-12-2009, 01:48 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
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08-12-2009, 03:05 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
What's the braking gain with larger rotors while retaining the same calipers and pads?
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08-12-2009, 03:49 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Originally Posted by Jim Michaels
What's the braking gain with larger rotors while retaining the same calipers and pads?
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Larger rotors dissipate heat faster/better.
And they look better, too.
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08-12-2009, 04:37 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Originally Posted by Jim Michaels
What's the braking gain with larger rotors while retaining the same calipers and pads?
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Same clamping force [from the stock caliper and pads] X Longer lever arm [by moving the caliper radially away from the wheel center] = Greater braking torque
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08-12-2009, 04:54 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Exactly.
Lever arm: This is precisely why race teams use such large calipers with a short annulus (swept width)
Size: Much better heat sink
AND: These are SLOTTED. Last a hell of a lot longer than OEM with all the cracking and grooving issues!
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08-13-2009, 07:46 AM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Craig,
This has probably been covered before, but if you don't mind me asking - will the GiroDisc rotors fit behind the stock 18" Cayman S wheel?
Thanks.
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08-13-2009, 11:19 AM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Definitely will, no issues whatsoever.
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08-13-2009, 12:41 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
I will chime in. I have a Girodisk set, and they have been working great. I can outbrake just about anyone at the track, (except some dedicated track cars that weight a lot less, say 2200 pounds). No fade with Motul 600, flushed once a year and bled after every event, and braided brake lines. Easier modulation than the originals. Our original brakes are very good to begin with. I would not have bothered for autocross.
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08-13-2009, 12:55 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
You also drive your car is extremely hot conditions too, correct?
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08-13-2009, 03:16 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
The temperatures in the summer fluctuate from 95 to 100 at the track with the sun beating on the tarmack. In the so call winter it is 80 to 90 degrees at the track. It is a lot cooler in the mountains and somewhat cooler in the north coast where I live.
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08-13-2009, 03:53 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Data point:
There are 2 father/son track duos here who both had probelms pre-GiroDisc, no problems any longer.
Cars run all day, back-to-back sessions with 1 break at lunch.
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08-13-2009, 11:27 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
do these rotors not fit on the non S cayman?
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08-14-2009, 06:53 AM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
How about unsprung weight? Recognizing that it takes a pretty good driver to see any difference, is there a difference in handling that comes from this type of setup?
edit: Craig, I'm sure you've covered this before but it might bear repeating here.
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08-14-2009, 11:39 AM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Not avail for non-S which has a completely different caliper & rotor.
Here are the stats regarding size & weight:
PORSCHE CAYMAN ROTOR PACKAGE
SIZE:
Front: Factory 317 mm/GiroDisc 340 mm
Rear: Factory 298 mm/GiroDisc 325 mm
WEIGHT:
Front: Factory 19.85 lbs./GiroDisc 17.25 lbs.
Rear: Factory 14.0 lbs./GiroDisc 15.00 lbs.
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03-11-2010, 03:10 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
UPDATE: FREE shipping on GiroDiscs!
*Must mention when ordering...anywhere in the USA via UPS*
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03-11-2010, 06:08 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Originally Posted by Craig@Rennstore.com
PORSCHE CAYMAN ROTOR PACKAGE
SIZE:
Front: Factory 317 mm/GiroDisc 340 mm
Rear: Factory 298 mm/GiroDisc 325 mm
WEIGHT:
Front: Factory 19.85 lbs./GiroDisc 17.25 lbs.
Rear: Factory 14.0 lbs./GiroDisc 15.00 lbs.
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They look very nice.
Do you have any actual rotational inertia info (since the weight was saved in the hat)? Thanks.
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03-11-2010, 08:46 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
You bet - here she is:
PORSCHE CAYMAN ROTOR PACKAGES
SIZE:
Front: Factory 317 mm/GiroDisc 340 mm
Rear: Factory 298 mm/GiroDisc 325 mm
WEIGHT:
Front: Factory 19.85 lbs./GiroDisc 17.25 lbs.
Rear: Factory 14.0 lbs./GiroDisc 15.00 lbs.
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03-11-2010, 08:57 PM
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Re: Larger front rotors with original calipers?
Craig, do you have the size specs for the factory Cayman S PCCB's?
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