Planet 9

I'm planning to DE our Cayman S frequently. I'm curious about other drivers experience with performance pads in their crocs. I'm not looking for a street pad -I will change brake pads at the track.

In my bloated '90 Carrera 4 Cabriolet, I started with Pagid Organge compound. They worked very well, but I could still overheat them at times. I switched to the even more aggressive Pagid Blacks. Those pads will stop you right now!

I've heard from Boxster S owners who have had much sucess with Pagid Yellow and another with Pagid Black.

What's the experience here in this forum?

Pagid Yellow F and Pagid Black R worked great on my GT3, but you might want to start out with Oranges (take less heat, rotor friendly) first and see how you like them. Good that you're swapping 'em because they all squeal on the street.

Lee in D.C.
'06 Caytman RS project

I always get a silly grin on my face when people say that a pad is "rotor friendly". Have you priced the Pagid black pads lately? Tell you what, I'd like a rotor that's pad friendly!

you shouldn't overheat pagid orange RS4-4 with 964's. ease up on the brakes.

i would use either orange or yellow on cayman. my runs on RS19 all corners. fabulous pads.

no they are not rotor friendly, i need new rotors every 1000 track miles.

Brake cooling was always a problem in my 964. It's a heavy car. It's a 4WD Cabriolet and tips the scales at over 3,600 lbs. I upgraded the brakes to 993TT "Big Red" . The only way to get that big b*tch to turn in was to use a lot of trailbraking. I replaced the front fog lights with brake cooling ducts - that helped a bit. It's not that I was constantly cooking the Pagid oranges - just that my heavy car was going through brake pads like a bum through a 12 pack.

I found similar rotor life to your experiences - I'd get maybe 10 track weekends from a set of rotors.

I think I'll give the Pagid Yellow compound a try.
Thanks for the feedback!

I'm running yellows front and rear and have great pedal feel, lots of power and modulation available. Never had any fade at all. They are noisy on the street though when the pad material rubs off the disc. Sounds like a bus...
Good stuff for serious track action!

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'06 Cayman S -JIC Cross, Quaife, CCW C14 wheels,MPSC's, Milltek cat back, GT3 seats Schroth harnesses, TC design bar, Pagid yellows, GT3 cup brake ducts,de-snorked, vanilla air freshener RSR Instructor

chris, just re-bed the pads when it gets squeaky. every time i rebed them, they shut up for about 1000 miles on street.

FWIW pass on the Porterfields R4s. My experience included poor fitment and quality issues. I had to elongate the retaining pin holes, remove pad material on two pads where it had been bonded to the backing plates partially blocking the same retaining pin holes and finally neither the track or street R4s contact the full rotor - about 1/4" is left unswept closest to the hub. Very disappointed, set cost @$630 from Livermore performance. Never had issues with Hawks or Ferodos...

Cheers

Another option to conside are the Performance Friction pads ~ either the 97, 96 or 01 compounds.

I wanted the PF-97s for my first track day with the Cayman but Livermore and one other vender was out of stock......

You may also want to consider the XPS pads by BHP if you don't want to swap pads between street and track. They are a true track pad. Although they are quite up to the performance level of the Pagid pads, they do offer 95% of the max stopping force when cold, which is much better than any other track pad out there. They are a little nosier than the stock pads, but they are quieter than most track pads.

Even though it is pretty easy to swap pads on a Porsche, I decided it was something I didn't want to do 8 times per year for the 4 (or so) track events I attend.

I am running PF97 and they are amazing. Great stopping power, great feel and they have lasted more than 15 track days so far (still some left...)

I picked up a set of Pagid Yellow pads and had a chance to try them at Roebling Road at last weekends PCA Coastal Empire Region event. Roebling isn't know for being harsh on brakes. Turn one is the only serious braking area.

I ran on the stock Michelin tires and Pagid pads. Nice progressive bite with consistent stopping power all the way to the turn-in point.

Next weekend they'll get a much better test. I'll be at Sebring for their annual Instructor School event. Sebring is hell on brakes. I've run their plenty of times in my 964 with 993TT brakes. I've burned up pads and cracked rotors there.

brake pad installation is a bitch

The anti-squeal shims Porsche uses have an adhesive on them. So they stick to the pads - making them a bitch to pull out.

I bought two tools to help make the job a little easier. I picked up an extra wheel mount pin and a 4mm "punch" to remove the brake pad locking pin. I also bought a pair of jack pads. A 4mm punch is a must have for the job! The extra wheel mount pin means I can keep it in the tool box and not have to fish around in the factory trunk toolkit.

People have been bitching about Porsche's hub centric wheel design for a while now. Yeah, it's not as convenient as the old fashioned wheel studs, but with the wheel mount pin it's a whole lot easier.

The jack pads are another "must have" item for your tool box. I never used a jack pad on my 964. A few years of frequent wheel changes without a jack pad have pretty much bent the hell out of the factory jack point. I won't make the same mistake on the Cayman.