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2.7 Owners/How many wish for 6 gears?
The one thing I would Really want Porsche to change about the 2.7 is the 5 speed Transmission to a 6 Speed .Do any other 2.7 Owners feel the same way ? I personally think that was Cheep on their part.
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03-24-2008, 12:16 PM
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I'm perfectly happy with five. They seem well spaced and very usable. I had six speeds on my old Boxster S (as well as I can remember  ) and I didn't use them all.
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03-24-2008, 12:47 PM
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I agree that it is a bit cheap in this day and age. A VW Golf has six gears.
I don't miss them though. The five speed is great. Third gear is oh so sweet.
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i agree . i had a 5.0l mustang in the late 80's with a 5-speed ! in todays day and age ,and the price we pay we should get a 6-speed transmission with our cars.
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03-24-2008, 01:46 PM
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I'm glad to have the 5-speed. During spirited driving, I'm usually using gears 2, 3 and 4. Fifth only gets used for freeway cruising. I can't imagine needing a sixth gear... and the ratios in the 5-speed seem perfect.
However, I'm sure if I had a 6-speed, I'd love that too. As the saying goes, love what you have...
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03-24-2008, 02:01 PM
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Why do you need 6 gears? I have a CS and would be fine with 5. The gearing/ratios/spacing is not that great on the CS/6speed anyway...
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03-24-2008, 02:03 PM
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I guess you are right about loving what you have .2nd and 3Rd gear are my favorites as well. I have never had a 6 speed though so I was just wondering if I was missing Out on something.Drove the BMW 128 (Base model) this weekend and My future son in law had to say .Hey its got 6 speeds and your Cayman doesnt .Gotta be happy with what you have.If you own anyPorsche Cayman you are a Dam Lucky person.. The thought of this is taking me to my car for my 1 hour lunch.. DRIVING...
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03-24-2008, 02:21 PM
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I don't see what all the fuss is about. My old 968 Coupe had 6 gears, but 5 and 6 were so close that there was barely any difference. Really only of much use for lots of long distance work, and that's not what I bought the Cayman for anyway.
In the UK, the 5 speed Cayman also has the great advantage that is is in a lower tax bracket than the 6 speed, and as there have just been huge hikes in the top bracket taxes, the 5 speed makes even more sense now.
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Originally Posted by John H
I don't see what all the fuss is about. My old 968 Coupe had 6 gears, but 5 and 6 were so close that there was barely any difference. Really only of much use for lots of long distance work, and that's not what I bought the Cayman for anyway.
In the UK, the 5 speed Cayman also has the great advantage that is is in a lower tax bracket than the 6 speed, and as there have just been huge hikes in the top bracket taxes, the 5 speed makes even more sense now.
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Are the tax brackets based on how many cogs a transmission has or on the size of the engine. Are you saying that if your base Cayman was equiped with the PASM and six speed transmission, you would be in a higher tax bracket?
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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03-24-2008, 02:31 PM
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I'm happy with the 5-speed, and would have ordered a 6 speed if I thought the car needed one. I had a six speed on my last sports coupe, but the 2.7 is just fine with 5.
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03-24-2008, 02:57 PM
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5 speed is great!!
Having tried the 2.7 with both the six speed (with PASM) and the five speed I found the six speed to require more rowing and wasn't as user friendly other than for track use. As a daily driver the five speed is preferable IMHO.
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
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In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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03-24-2008, 03:41 PM
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in todays day and age ,and the price we pay we should get a 6-speed transmission with our cars.
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Nope, I don't miss having a 6-speed in my Cayman. If I had it, I'd use it. Since I don't, I don't worry about it.
This reminds me of a lengthy discussion we had on a Miata board (yes, I owned a Miata prior to my Cayman, and loved it!) about the number of lugnuts the car had. Up until the latest generation, the Miata only had... gasp!... four lugnuts. Must mean the car is terrible...
Neither the number of gears, nor the number of lug nuts defines the value of my car.
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5 speeds seems fine to me. Would never consider spending $3k for suspension and an extra gear. Would spend it on something else. The car is very nice with 5 and its 2.7.
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I have a CS obviously with the 6 spd. and a BMW with a 6 spd. and I agree with all you 5 spdrs. a 6th gear is really not needded to enjoy the car. 6th is really only used for highway cruising. I'd be perfectly happy with 5 in either car. I think the real reason is to keep up with the competition, but thats only my opin. By the way the 2.7 wasn't out yet when I bought my car,and I think it is the smarter way to go!
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03-25-2008, 06:26 AM
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I think that the ratios of the 5 gears on the 2.7 are well-suited to the engine. I'm very happy with 5, and see no need for a sixth gear. 987f
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The 5-speed is perfect for the 2.7, IMO. I didn't realize this until I moved to a 3.4 with a 6-speed. I would actually like a nicely spaced 5 speed in my 3.4 as I never use 5th and feel ridiculous shifting from 4th into 6th.
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03-25-2008, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by filahebe
Are the tax brackets based on how many cogs a transmission has or on the size of the engine. Are you saying that if your base Cayman was equiped with the PASM and six speed transmission, you would be in a higher tax bracket?
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The UK tax brackets are based on CO2 emissions, and there is an important break at the 225 CO figure. For some reason the 5 speed tests just below this, but the 6 speed (and Tiptronic) test just above it.
This means that in the UK the ONLY cars Porsche make which are not in the very top tax bracket are the Cayman (and Boxster) 2.7 5 speed versions. Our charming government has just launched a new round of vehicle taxes which are swingeing on the top bracket cars, and likely to get even worse. Another very good reason for the 2.7 5 speed.
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Same in Belgium.... the only Porsche that is not in the top tax categorie is the 2.7 Cayman and Boxter.... gouvernment wants us all to drive in tiny little green 1.0 liter cars ..pffffff
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03-25-2008, 10:41 AM
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Well I am amazed at the reaction here .Its really the oposite of what I thought it would be ,It seems that 5 speeds is really all that is needed .Even several CS owners would be happy with the 5 . Did someone say that 6 speed trans is an option on a 2.7 Liter?
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I am happy with the 5 speed....
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