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03-17-2009, 06:21 PM
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A CS w/Sport Chron Package and PASM vs. not having either?
Hi,
I'm looking at two, 2006 CS's, one of which comes w/the Sport Chrono Package, that has the PCM (Porsche Communications Management and Sport Chrono Timer, and the PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management. The other CS is w/o these packages.
Is the CS w/these options, worth getting, vs. a CS w/o the options? Do the PCM and PASM have any issues, such as failing or not working, etc?
Thanks.
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM |
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Last edited by GoHack; 03-17-2009 at 09:54 PM.
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03-18-2009, 05:24 AM
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Re: A CS w/Sport Chron Package and PASM vs. not having either?
Originally Posted by GoHack
Hi,
I'm looking at two, 2006 CS's, one of which comes w/the Sport Chrono Package, that has the PCM (Porsche Communications Management and Sport Chrono Timer, and the PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management. The other CS is w/o these packages.
Is the CS w/these options, worth getting, vs. a CS w/o the options? Do the PCM and PASM have any issues, such as failing or not working, etc?
Thanks.
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Well it somewhat depends on the price difference but more so what you are looking for in a Cayman S. If it were me I'd get the car with PCM, PASM and SC because I like and use all of them. My car came with PASM and SC and I later retrofitted PCM. Initially a car with those 3 options is going to be what about $7K higher in price, but on the resale market the difference may not be as much in which case you benefit from someone else taking the depreciation on the options and making it a better "deal" for you.
You need to drive both to see how the ride differs in sport vs. non-sport mode for both SC and PASM and see which you like best. As far as problems with any of those systems I'd say "no" because to date there have been very few problems with any of those 3 items, nothing that seems systemic. Obviously there are complaints about PCM's lack of an iPod connection, but that can be retrofitted with a Dension or other unit. If you were going to rip the suspension out and install a track-only suspension then I'd say pass on PASM, but if you want to enjoy a flexible car that can be both a good daily street driver as well as a weekend track toy, then I think PASM and SC are both nice additions.
Please check the FAQ on this site for the details on each option.
Ultimately, whichever you choose you are going to get a mighty fine car!
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM |
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03-18-2009, 10:42 AM
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Re: A CS w/Sport Chron Package and PASM vs. not having either?
Originally Posted by K-Man S
Well it somewhat depends on the price difference but more so what you are looking for in a Cayman S. If it were me I'd get the car with PCM, PASM and SC because I like and use all of them. My car came with PASM and SC and I later retrofitted PCM. Initially a car with those 3 options is going to be what about $7K higher in price, but on the resale market the difference may not be as much in which case you benefit from someone else taking the depreciation on the options and making it a better "deal" for you.
You need to drive both to see how the ride differs in sport vs. non-sport mode for both SC and PASM and see which you like best. As far as problems with any of those systems I'd say "no" because to date there have been very few problems with any of those 3 items, nothing that seems systemic. Obviously there are complaints about PCM's lack of an iPod connection, but that can be retrofitted with a Dension or other unit. If you were going to rip the suspension out and install a track-only suspension then I'd say pass on PASM, but if you want to enjoy a flexible car that can be both a good daily street driver as well as a weekend track toy, then I think PASM and SC are both nice additions.
Please check the FAQ on this site for the details on each option.
Ultimately, whichever you choose you are going to get a mighty fine car! |
Thank you for responding.
My main concern is w/the suspension mostly. If there has been any problems w/it failing, such as w/the adjustable shocks. Concerns about the future problems, because this is going to be a long time ownership vehicle. 
I've never been a fan of added bells and whisles, such as electric windows and power seats. I know electric windows, at least on other vehicles, have been known to fail, and can be quit costly to repair, especially as the vehicle gets older.
These two CS's are being sold at a Chevy Dealership, and so I don't think they even know what is in this vehicle. When I saw it, I recognized it right away. This one is $42K, and the other CS that they have is is $44K. This one is loaded w/the above, but has 14K miles on it, and the other isn't, but has only 7K miles on it.
If I should go w/it, I will have it checked out at a local Porsche Service Department. I've already made an appointment.
In the mean time, I've got an appointment tomorrow at that same Porsche dealership to talk about a couple of 2006 CS's that they have.
I fell in love w/the CS when it first came out in 2006, and vowed that someday I would get one.
As I read some of the posts here, I didn't know that there have been problems w/the engine. I talked w/a Porsche mechanic the other day, and he happened to mention Porsche using sealed bearings at the end of the cam shafts, and that they sometimes fail. Then reading here about the problems w/the rear main bearing getting starved of oil and failing. I'm surprised since Porsche products have been race proven before going into production, or they use to.
Finally, is there any benefits to the Standard Cayman over the S model, other than cost?
Thank you.
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM |
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Last edited by GoHack; 03-18-2009 at 10:45 AM.
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