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Old 03-09-2009, 07:21 AM
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Oilsafe kit (scavenge pump improvement) for 987 - 997

I fitted to my 987S boxster with 3.8 X51 engine, an oil safe kit, in order to cure oil starvation. The kit is develloped from TTP (ww.t-t-p.de), it costs 1100euro, net price. It consists of a hjeavy duty external sump which sends the oil to the other side of the engine when the car is cornering (especially left side corners).
I asked him about manthey's oilsafe kit and he told me that his kit (TTP's kit) is the same but TTP uses bigger oil pumps so that he can acieve more oil pressure. It is the same kit used in the Nurburing 24hour race with a Boxster.

I attach pictures of the installation.
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Very nice. Thank you for sharing. Can you share a brief list of what the kit comes with?
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An external pump, pipping, I do not know what else honetsly. Contact him if you wish, he can explain. I also fitted suncoast's X51 oil pan, which is not astandard in e.8 X51 in europe and oil pan extencion.
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I fitted to my 987S boxster with 3.8 X51 engine, an oil safe kit, in order to cure oil starvation. The kit is develloped from TTP (ww.t-t-p.de), it costs 1100euro, net price. It consists of a hjeavy duty external sump which sends the oil to the other side of the engine when the car is cornering (especially left side corners).
I asked him about manthey's oilsafe kit and he told me that his kit (TTP's kit) is the same but TTP uses bigger oil pumps so that he can acieve more oil pressure. It is the same kit used in the Nurburing 24hour race with a Boxster.

I attach pictures of the installation.
I'm not seeing this product on the TTP website. Does anyone else have any additional or updated information on sourcing, product description, pricing, etc.?

Thanks, Andy
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Originally Posted by Andy (Portland, OR) View Post
I'm not seeing this product on the TTP website. Does anyone else have any additional or updated information on sourcing, product description, pricing, etc.?

Thanks, Andy
Andy, there are more details here, that a friend in Germany obtain from TTP
http://www.planetporsche.net/cayman-...tml#post341135
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Thanks Gilles. I was a little confused, as the pictures show an external Pump, not an external Sump. This helps clarify. Perhaps the thread name could be edited to clarify?
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Re: Oilsafe kit (scavenge pump improvement) for 987 - 997

Originally Posted by Jeff G in NE GA View Post
Thanks Gilles. I was a little confused, as the pictures show an external Pump, not an external Sump. This helps clarify. Perhaps the thread name could be edited to clarify?
I agree. I thought the same thing when I was reading this. I have changed the name.
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Re: Oilsafe kit (scavenge pump improvement) for 987 - 997

Here is some information I just received from TTP (which included the same photo as posted above):

Hi Andy,

this pump is made for track use of a Boxster or Cayman. Enclosed picture
gives you an idea what we deliver. The installation takes approx 5 hours.
We can deliver from stock for EURO 1.450,00, shipping approx EURO 200,00.

Our system consists a 2nd return oilpump which is driven by the original
return oilpump in your cylinderhead. The problem of a Boxster/Cayman is,
driving fast in left corners. The oil in the cylinderhead goes, because
of zentifugal force to the front of the right cylinderhead. The original
return pump cannot bring back the oil to the sump, because it sucks air.
When there is not enough oil in the sump, the engine oilpump sucks air and
your engine dies. Our oilreturn pump is connected to the front of the
cylinderhead where the oil is, while cornering. So the oil can come back to
the
sump in this way, as our oilpump can catch the oil.

Best regards

Ferdinand Pietz
---TTP---

TTP Automotive GmbH
Turbo Technik Pietz
Pullach 4b
83059 Kolbermoor
Geschftsfhrer: Ferdinand Pietz

Tel: +49-8061-3 66 66
Fax: +49-8061-3 66 55
Mail: info@t-t-p.de
Web: TTP Automotive GmbH Turbo Technik Pietz
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HR-Nr.: HRB17794
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I just received my Kit from TTP, will be installing it next week and then back to the track after a good breakin of the new engine.

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I have been using the kit from TTP and I am very p[leased. I have done up to now 4.000hard km and I have not broken any engine yet... . I have also fitted a gauge to check the oil pressure and I will be visiting the track at some point to see what is going on in extreme conditions, but I do believe everything is solved now as the oil pressure nvever drops less then 2bar, even in long tight corners
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Install time of 5 hours? Total? Or is is 5 hours with an engine that is outside of the car?

$2500 US for parts, and at least $500 for labor

$3000 US better put in the MkII 320 HP CS cookie jar? Assuming the DFI engine has solved the problem.

That is a much higher percentage of the overall cost of the vehicle in the US, so I suspect that it will get more use in other countries. Makes a lot of sense in Greece, for example, where the car is literally twice as expensive. Interesting stuff.
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I shall report in this topic as well that I have used this system once with slick tires and twice with hoosier r6 and I havew had no problems at all, no drop in oil pressure and engine failure whatsoever. Furthermore, in this track I had my engine destroyed at the very first time I tried my on the track, before installing this system, so this is a huge improvement.

Dane, I do not know ehther 987.II with slicks will work, despite the 5 oil pumps. The problem of the car is at the return pump in left corners, I trully do not know whether Gen II have solved this. Trial and error is the way I think...

By the way you are right about the double price in Greece...but in any case I have paid to much money on my car by now, 3.8 X51 engine and everything fromt Tarrett, JIC Cross supencion, Quaife LSD, and muich much more, do not come standard even in GEN II ! SO I needed to solve the issue...

I want to thank TTP for constructing this pump, my car was the first car who tried it and thank GOD I can at last use my car as hard as I wish!
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