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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSteve View Post
    Agree to a certain extent, but it is annoying to have your intelligence insulted when it would have been just as easy to get it right, or at least reasonably close. It's easy to suspend belief when you are watching a fantasy like Beauty and the Beast, for instance. It's a little harder when the movie purports to be serious and believable but violates basic laws of nature. I hear that The Core may be the worst ever, but as a whiny geoscientist, I passed on it.
    With few exceptions, anything conceived in the Hollywood cesspool is going to be lacking on one or more fronts. Garbage in (mix with egos and greed and pandering to the lowest level of intelligence) and inevitably you get garbage out. I'm truly looking forward to the day when all those whiney, overpaid, celebrity dipsh**s are replaced by CG. Personally, I'd rather drive concrete nails through my feet that hang out with the popcorn-chomping, chatty masses watching Tinsel Town crap in a smelly, sticky theatre. Like printing words on newsprint, paying tens of dollars to watch grainy images projected on a screen that I can barely see around other people's' heads is a concept past its prime.
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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by OttawaSteve View Post
    I hear that The Core may be the worst ever, but as a whiny geoscientist, I passed on it.
    The Core - Hillary Swank. I remember it. Its science fiction, by definition, not real. It's no different than the Original War of the Worlds from 1953. Science Fiction. Or maybe Michael Rennie and The Day the Earth Stood Still (I'm sure someone was complaining about the size of the robot being unrealistic ) Its not supposed to be real. Now if it were a drama, maybe one might pay more attention but as Science Fiction ... its fiction

    Yup, I feel sorry for u guys You see, its entertainment. You watch it and move on
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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by gcurnew View Post
    paying tens of dollars to watch grainy images projected on a screen that I can barely see around other people's' heads is a concept past its prime.
    Since ticket sales are way down, the buying public seems to agree. Far to expense, even for matinees. We go maybe once/year.

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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by chows4us View Post
    Its not supposed to be real. Now if it were a drama, maybe one might pay more attention but as Science Fiction ... its fiction

    Yup, I feel sorry for u guys You see, its entertainment. You watch it and move on
    Despite needing to suspend reality and known science for a while, I really enjoyed "Interstellar". Accidentally watched Logan's Run about a month ago, it may be a cult classic but I am mentioning in the hope of saving others from the pain.
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    Re: A serious whine

    Mythbusters made an entertainment career out of debunking movie 'myths'.
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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by iiagdtr View Post
    Accidentally watched Logan's Run about a month ago, it may be a cult classic but I am mentioning in the hope of saving others from the pain.
    Logans Run is a movie that doesn't transcend time well. Its a moral story - end of the world, computers run everything, alarmist stuff. If you saw it in 1976 when it came out, it would be "futuristic" and "oh no, we are going to turn out that way". It sold better. And it came after Planet of the Apes and Solyent Green, a theme of watch out for Global Thermonuclear War. Yes, its not something to watch today. Same with Cherry 2000. I think some episodes of Enterprise or Star Gate used similar themes, computers running an idealist society.

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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by chows4us View Post
    ...Do doctors watch Dr. Kildare or today Grey’s anatomy and worry about some surgery going on they have the wrong number of millimeters or whatever being injected?

    ...The same thing is true for those who read “the book” and then watch “the movie. I used to be that way thinking “Hey, that wasn’t in the book” and “Hey, that didn’t happen this way” until I wised up and remembered, they can’t possibly put everything in the book in a 2 or 3 hour movie. It’s just entertainment.
    When I see some really moronic medical scene, I find it distracting. In most cases, they could find a real medical type to rewrite half a page of the screenplay and spend another $69.95 on props, and come up with something that's actually semi-plausible, so why don't they? I'm not talking about futuristic, sci-fi films where you have to suspend all rational thought for 2 hours or a comedy that's supposed to be stupid anyway, just the average drama.

    And I almost never watch a movie that's based on a book, because the book is always better except in a few rare cases where cinematic special effects are valuable additions.

    Quote Originally Posted by gcurnew View Post
    With few exceptions, anything conceived in the Hollywood cesspool is going to be lacking on one or more fronts. Garbage in (mix with egos and greed and pandering to the lowest level of intelligence) and inevitably you get garbage out. I'm truly looking forward to the day when all those whiney, overpaid, celebrity dipsh**s are replaced by CG. Personally, I'd rather drive concrete nails through my feet that hang out with the popcorn-chomping, chatty masses watching Tinsel Town crap in a smelly, sticky theatre. Like printing words on newsprint, paying tens of dollars to watch grainy images projected on a screen that I can barely see around other people's' heads is a concept past its prime.
    What the heck is CG? Coast Guard? Commanding General? Casper the Ghost? Personally, I prefer the latter in the context you used the abbreviation.
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    Re: A serious whine

    Quote Originally Posted by KCZ View Post
    When I see some really moronic medical scene, I find it distracting. In most cases, they could find a real medical type to rewrite half a page of the screenplay and spend another $69.95 on props, and come up with something that's actually semi-plausible, so why don't they? I'm not talking about futuristic, sci-fi films where you have to suspend all rational thought for 2 hours or a comedy that's supposed to be stupid anyway, just the average drama.

    And I almost never watch a movie that's based on a book, because the book is always better except in a few rare cases where cinematic special effects are valuable additions.

    What the heck is CG? Coast Guard? Commanding General? Casper the Ghost? Personally, I prefer the latter in the context you used the abbreviation.
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    WOTD - Do something about your Whines

    First, credit where credit is due. The first post of this thread was concerned our perceived terrible service at a restaurant over a year ago. At that time, about everything that could go wrong, went wrong and my conclusion was no one wants to work anymore or take little pride in their work. The sad thing is, this doesn't just happened once in a while. It happens MOST of the time. The other day, since more than a year past, we decided to give it another shot, and what a difference a year makes. The food was excellent, the service attentive, and about everything that could go right, went right and they were praised. Credit where credit is due. The only recourse I had in the last year was simply to vote with my feet and not spend money on them. That was doing something about my whine. I gave themselves another shot, and they completely turned around. Good.

    Now I heard this today.
    http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/11-a-good-walk-spoiled Basically, its a whine about the lack of public parks in LA and rich guys get to play golf with low property taxes.

    First, they criticize those that play golf. I don't get that. Why not criticize those that play tennis, get up at 5 AM and practice hockey, those that jog, those that run 5K, those that walk their dogs? No they criticize those that play golf because its a rich man's game. NO, its not. I know its not. Its up to you to join a private club or play on a public course. Your choice.

    But then it went on to criticize the laws of CA, and specifically LA. It appears that in the early 60s, they got into the CA constitution that golf courses were exempt from some property tax rules, specifically the best use policy (i.e, you get taxed on the best use of the property). Then with Proposition 13, their tax rates wouldn't go up. So a bunch of rich guys get to play golf when "they" want to use the land to jog (or whatever). Boo Hoo. If there was a crying icon I'd used it. Why boohoo?

    All I could do was not give my money to a place that provides service until they got their act together. There are lots of places to eat dinner. In this case, if the taxation situation is a real issue, then do something about it. WHO voted for the change to the CA constitution? WHO voted for Proposition 13? Oh yeah, the citizens of CA. Well? Isn't the answer obvious? Vote. They got EXACTLY what they voted for. If the people of LA and CA care that golf courses exist in lieu of golf courses, they can do the EXACT same thing. Change the laws. Duh.

    Now part of the problem here is that as long as 51% of the ownership of the land is retained, then the tax rate is pre-1978. But when does that line blur? And I learned a new thing, thank you Mr. Podcast "the Ship of Theseus". Smart people those ancient greeks. If a ship heads out on a voyage, is damaged, and as it cruises around parts are change to the point that when it returns to port all parts have been changed, is it the same ship?

    Hmm

    If that same ancient ship is put into a museum, and night after night thieves come in and still a board at a time replacing the old board with equivalent old boards so the museum never knows, now there are two ships, the ORIGINAL reconstructed ship that was stolen, and the replicate that looks like the original. Which is the real one?

    Hmm

    If you own your car long enough, and this is an issue with classics, that you rebuild the engine and transmission, replace the seats, repaint the car, but it still looks like the original car, is it the original car? This is why matching numbers is important in the value of classic cars. Yes, it matters. OEM parts are always more valuable than replaced parts.

    Hmm

    If you get some parts replaced, new hip, new knees, artificial organs, blood transfusion, are you still you?

    Hmm

    I think there is a lesson here and I tried to tie my original experience with what I just heard. The only thing I could do is not provide profit to a restaurant where I considered the food and service poor (and they turned around, maybe because others felts the same way). If the citizens of LA don't want golf courses but would rather have public parks, don't whine about it, do something about it. You voted in the laws making their property taxes dirt cheap, well vote out those laws. You can do something about it.
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    ^^^Nah, it's much easier to just complain about it....

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    WOTD - please teach civics!!!

    I might have brought this up before but its getting worse. Its not the TV season which is mostly, IMO, terrible anyway. Cable news is pointless as the stations are mostly echo chambers. Sometimes I read the "internet", another mistake. I understand they stopped teaching Civics in HS some time ago, maybe 20 years ago? So we have an entire generation that simply does not understand how things works.

    I find it absolutely amazing some people really think that if a sitting President is impeached, that an election gets overturned and the party that lost gets to become President ... this is NOT a political discussion but an EDUCATION. Duh, no. When President Clinton was impeached did Bob Dole become President? Duh no. Impeachment, per se, is NOT conviction. Don't they teach anything anymore in schools?

    Impeachment does NOT mean "thrown" out of office. It means the house, indicts. The Senate has to "convict" as the jury. Duh.

    For the Senate to convict, the bar is very very high. And the bar is very, very high. Its MORE than a supermajority in the Senate. It's 67%. There is a reason no President has every been convicted and thats because the bar is so high, that even with a majority in the senate, its the same level to over rule a Presidential Veto - 2/3s.

    If the Senate convicts, guess who becomes president? Here's a hint, its not the loser of the last national election. It's the Vice President. That's why he or she is called "VICE" president. Duh.

    If the VP were to be impeached and convicted, then the Speaker of the House becomes president, and so forth Duh.

    Really, teach civics in High School. The Internet just makes the lack of education worse since opinions are viewed by some as fact. I wonder if they even teach US history anymore.

    Yup, this is all a whine. The lack of education of how the very system we all live with works, by some, is appalling as fake information is spread as truth. It's not.
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    WOTD – Game Over Alas, poor Porsche, I knew you for a long time, and now game over.

    In what appears to me to be a hissy fit because of the USA’s decision to remove itself from the Paris Accords, the EU parliament has voted to make the accords “binding” on its member governments. Read The European Union Just Voted To Make The Paris Agreement Legally Binding | IFLScience The different governments need to concur. But not only is it to be binding, they decided to up their game. See Paris agreement: Parliament backs new carbon cuts, debates U.S. withdrawal | News | European Parliament The TL;DR version is, if I read it right, target goals must start from 2018, NOT 2020 and they must be at 40% of their 1990 levels by 2030.

    Meanwhile, back in the USA, bigger is better. A 707 HP Dodge wasn’t good enough so we now can buy a 840 HP Dodge. Do they still call Chrysler’s Mopar?

    But it gets better. In the news the last few days was Tangier Island, a tiny speck of land of the VA coast that is mostly crabbing and a few houses. Recently made a National Historic Site, its history has been documented here http://www.dhr.virginia.gov/register...NRHP_FINAL.pdf The short version of this very long document is that’s it was discovered by John Smith, you can’t farm the land because it’s a spit of sand, and the British occupied it in the War of 1812 Being a spit of sand in the mid-Atlantic region, its subject to NorthEasters that batter the coast for, well for all recorded history, never mind Atlantic ice in the Bay. Per the government document, if I’m reading this correctly, the island is only a few feet over sea level and has been eroding since European man discovered it (that would be the late 1600s). Part of the island was abandoned in the 1930s from erosion.

    For the science buff, sea level has oscillated the last 20,000 years. At that time, the continental shelf was exposed! Then the glaciers melted. From 3000 years ago, the sea level rises 6” per century. There is a description of 8000 BC and the paleoindian activity with higher sea levels as the glaciers continued to melt. Between 1200 BC to 1600 AD the Bay got warm and dry. Tangier Island was disappearing since the 1840s. There is nothing new here. It's OLD news. A good overview of the place as a tourist spot is here https://annabuckley.com/2015/09/26/t...angier-island/ and from 2004 Chesapeake Bay's idyllic isle - LA Times which recounts the brutal storms causing erosion. Not sure they are “brutal”, but maybe just the normal Northeasters that come year after year.

    I have no idea if humans have caused the rise in sea level but it seems that this has been happening for 20,000 years, the continental shelf once exposed and this spit of sand would have been 330’ above sea level and the continual melting of ice just causing this naturally. Couple that with the winter storms and sand erodes. This didn’t just start happening since say WWII. Its been happening for 20,000 years.

    Today Tangier Island is the poster child for global warming. Since the President called the Mayor, one of the cable stations interviewed the mayor who refused to say that humans caused the rise in sea level. After the interview, the cable station felt it had to inform its viewers that this was, basically settled science and us humans caused all this. At least that was how I viewed it. I guess if the sea level has been rising since 18000 BC, yeah, its been settled. Its been continually rising.

    Which brings me full circle back to Paris, Porsche, and CO2. Fare thee well Porsche. The hand writing is on the wall just like the continual 6” rise of sea per century, year after year (until the next Ice Age), the island, and IC in the EU, will both disappear. A sad day indeed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chows4us View Post
    Do they still call Chrysler’s Mopar?
    Anything under FCA can/is called Mopar by FCA's marketing. There are "MOPAR" accessories for your Fiat 124 Spider. American accessories for your Italian branded car that's built in a Japanese factory with a Italian compact's drivetrain.

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    I did a dash cam upgrade in advance of my Father's Day (and Mom's birthday) drive down to my folks. If not for the video editing effort, I would create a montage of the stuff I see on a regular basis. Here's what I saw on that trip:

    • Coming out of the Tip O'Neill tunnel on 93S, was a previous generation Toyota Corolla on a completely flat driver-side rear tire. It absolutely has a TPMS sensor, even if it is only an idiot light.
    • A late 2000s early 2010s Acura TL was driving aggressively on 93S and bouncing off the limiter constantly. I noticed it had a flat driver-side front tire. When traffic nearly halted, I caught up, and mentioned it to them. The response was a shoulder shrug. They passed me later on going around 20-25mph over the speed limit on a tire that at most had 8psi in it. Again, this car has TPMS sensor, even if it is only an idiot light.
    • A Ford Focus (previous generation) sedan passed traffic on the right, traveling at around 20-25mph over the speed limit on 24S, with its belly pan wildly flapping away. I wonder if its still attached.
    • On 79S I was passed by a current generation Hyundai Elantra that, clocking it, was exceeding 100mph. No traffic before and aft for at least a half mile.
    • I saw a Jeep Renegade weaving through traffic behind me while on 79N. Clocking it, I estimate that it passed me at around 110mph Apparently some Renegades have a 130mph governor, which was news to me.

    • On 24N right around the Bridgewater toll plaza and 495 junction, I was passed by a Dodge RAM PROMaster van that, clocking it, was exceeding 100mph.

    This all reminds me why A) I do my fun drives on desolate backroads and B) well before dawn.
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    Yikes. Are autonomous cars going to be better for people like this? Will they have speed limiters? Functions designed to pull the car over if it has a flat or parts about to fall off or no remaining motor oil? Should they be required for people who've demonstrated they can't drive safely or maintain their car properly?

    Just throwing these thoughts out for discussion.
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    My guess on the Acura is the TPMS light is always on normally, so they just ignored the light as usual. I've rented a Fit and a Civic via ZipCar when weather was beyond terribad in the winter, and the TPMS light would be on. I'd check pressure (low due to temp) and use my air compressor to match what was on the driver door jamb, but on Honda cars the TPMS sensor must be explicitly reset, with the method explained in the manual. My guess is the driver doesn't ever bother to reset the sensor, and always drives around with the light on.

    On Toyotas the idiot light turns itself off automatically if all tires are within a certain range. How often do people inspect their tires? I do a visual before every drive and check pressure via the info gauge before I set off (and adjust if necessary). Most people don't do pre-flight checks though. So figure that Corolla likely was losing ~1psi per month, light certainly came on in the winter, and they're probably all at least a few pounds low now in the summer just from air slowly escaping. So the light is always on. So no idea they have a flat.

    "But wouldn't they notice that the car is pulling..." no. Think the car is aligned properly? Doubt it. Even then, they'll just chalk it up to "car magic I don't understand" and compensate and treat it like normal. Tire guy will roll his eyes, but he's seen it many times before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goofnik View Post
    How often do people inspect their tires? I do a visual before every drive and check pressure via the info gauge before I set off (and adjust if necessary). Most people don't do pre-flight checks though.
    I write off what you saw as normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCZ View Post
    Yikes. Are autonomous cars going to be better for people like this? Will they have speed limiters?
    Some years ago, there was the "gentleman's agreement" between the German car makers. Germany was considering abandoning the unlimited speed on the autobahn. The Germans said no, we will agree to limit our cars to 155. And they did, all except Porsche, who basically told them no, we do not do that. Then I think BMW took them off the M series.

    Will autonomous cars be better? What do you think?


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    I for one welcome our autonomous overlords! Whine for the Day I expect the 'regular' folks will flock to self driving cars so they can spend the time doing what is important to them rather than the silly driving thing. At least the SDA will be consistent and predictable so those of us who enjoy driving will be much safer and less stressed. During the period before the majority of cars are SDAs, it might look like Terminators versus humans on the roads. Will robots get road rage? Whine for the DayMy fear is that the bureaucratic mentality will leap to the conclusion that all Cars must be SDAs for safety of all. I hope I never see that come to pass.


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    If all SDA's are electronically limited to the speed limit, traffic may become so frustrating that we'll all opt for SDA's too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCZ View Post
    If all SDA's are electronically limited to the speed limit, traffic may become so frustrating that we'll all opt for SDA's too.
    If all traffic actually flowed at the speed limit, I'd jump for joy! Imagine how much less stressful commuter driving would be if everyone observed common rules of the road and courtesies. Goodbye, rubbernecking delays! Goodbye, slinky-like fits and starts. Goodbye, left lane blockers! Hello, zipper merges! Hello, predictable commute times! Etc, etc, etc...
    Notice I said nothing about pleasure driving. But the predictability and order from rules-based autonomous driving holds great promise IMHO. For rush hour driving, especially. The transition will be bumpy, the rules will need to be ironed out, and in the meantime we'll settle on some sort of compromise instead of a utopian ideal, but for most of the people, most of the time this will be a welcome quality-of-life improvement.
    Unless or until we all telecommute, that is!

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    Best regards,
    Croc'ed
    Metro NY PCA Deputy Chief DE Instructor

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