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There is a 2006 seal gray at Park Place Motorcars in Dallas. I'm considering it. Is anyone familiar with the car or the dealer? Also, they are asking 40,900. The car is loaded with about 12-13K of options and CPO. 22K miles. What would be a fair price?

Thanks in advance,
Dave

From what I have read around here, Park Place is an excellent dealer. I am not familiar with that particular car. IMO, that price is too high. That would be a good price for an 07. However, if you really like the car, and the price seems ok to you, then go for it.

Yeah - that price is (unfortunatly) high. Keep shopping around and I think you could get a new car with less miles for the same price.

Good luck!

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We are very familiar, and friendly, with Park Place Porsche and its staff. Bought the 2007 911 TT from them, and I just got my 2009 Cayman S from them on April 10th.

Since both our cars were custom build-to-order, can't speak much about their pricing - negotiating on a car that is so highly individualized tends to go nowhere. But for something already on the lot, there should be some "give" in the price.

If you haven't actually talked to a salesman there yet, I'd suggest Keith Beitter. And Mike Moseley is a very good service advisor.

best advice i'd make is to make an offer, and be prepared to walk away.

surprising how often you can get a call back. there are plenty of others
available. if the car had significant options, and was porsche certified,
the asking price might be tolerable.

going straight to the sales manager is also a way to see just what they will take too.

I saw a grey cayman S for $38000 in NY state, for comparison, with 5900 miles., owned by a retired dentist.

My local dealer recently discounted their 06 cayman s by several thousand dollars after it did not sell.

also check ebay. the very car you are looking at there may well have been listed (as your dealer does list cars with ebay), and you can see how well the bidding went on it, and what the dealer may have walked away from.

also consider the end of the month. dealers are often more motivated to make a better deal at the end of the month, to spare them the financial cost for the next month.

mike

To me it would depend on what the extra options are? I looked at the site and could not locate the vehicle in question.If there are after market add ons it would have to be something considered in the pricing.If you purchase a car for less without the desired options how much is it going to cost you to add them? and so on and so on...As mentioned before though one advantage to buying with add ons already in place is that it is penny's on the dollar.The car does have a market value and the added cost of these things are worth what someone like you or me are willing to pay for them

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Also give this FAQ a read: Planet Porsche - FAQ: Questions & Answers

Call Dave Campbell at Park Place, tell him you are interested in the car, tell him I sent you (well really this website sent you) and that you'd like his best price. See what he has to say.

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Additional info:
Options include:
19" carrerra S wheels
adaptive sports seats
xenons
bose
aluminum foot rest
PASM
crests in headrests
self dimming mirrors and rain sensor
sport chrono
sport shifter
sport steering wheel
TPMS
wheel cap crests
Porsche certified.

I don't know what Porsche charges for CPOs but I know it's something.

I've not found very many cars with this combo of options in a color I like. I won't be paying 40,900 but don't want to make a stupid offer either.

Dave

I bought my '07 from there about a month ago. I seem to recall the car you are looking at being there, although I didn't drive it as I wasn't interested in the color (and the price )

They will deal some, but I would doubt if they would knock, say 5K, off of the price.. If I were a betting person (which I'm not..) I say the most they go is 2K off.

But whatdoIknow...

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1989 Saab 900T
1990 Saab 900TC

I can offer one data point - I bought a very similar car to the above, '06 S, Seal Gray, 12K miles... on Feb. 25th.

differences: no CPO, no sports chrono, no adaptive sports seats.

my cost: $37K + 1K for porsche dealer used car eval, oil change and plane ticket to collect the car. $38K for a car which was stickered for > $71K in '06.

$40K isn't that far away from what I paid - and if you want/value CPO and/or the sports seats, that makes up some of the price difference. My must-haves were PASM and Bi-Xenon and the color ... I didn't even know it also had the Bose sound system.

I was living on cars.com and autotrader and was finding the combination of price+features+color a bit hard to satisfy so I jumped on mine. I'd try to knock some $$ off your car for the miles.

It depends upon those features you really want and where else you can get the whole package.

ymmv,

-PM.

Look what I found on PorscheUSA.com:

Hennessy Porsche North Atlanta -- 2007 Certified Porsche Cayman S, Guards Red

$39,995 for CPO 2007 Porsche Cayman S
Less than 9000 miles
680 - Bose High End Sound Package
M6Z - Floor Mats Interior Color
342 - Heated Front Seats
P12 - Self-Dim Mirrors & Rain Sensor
573 - Automatic Climate Control
PPA - Preferred Package
P77 - Leather Sport Seats
P74 - Bi-Xenon Headlamp Package
446 - Wheel Caps with Colored Crest

Can't one expect a similar car but a year older and more mileage to be at least $5,000 cheaper?

At the end of the day, it really depends on what matters most to you. Is this exactly the car you want from a color and options perspective and what is the likelihood of finding another one if it is...

When I purchased my car about 9 months ago, I had a specific color and set of options in mind (seal grey or arctic silver, 19" wheels, sports seats, sport chrono, PASM, BiXenon's, etc.). I was also looking for a car in essentially new condition at a used car price. This made the hunt very difficult. I was able to find a few cars that fit the option profile with approximatey 10K-15K miles on them and could have purchased one of them for $43K-$44K (this was last summer before the global economy collapsed). However, they all seemed to have a few minor things wrong with them (a door ding or small scratch, a few stone chips on the hood or bumper, a bit of wear here of there, etc).

Utimately, I paid $47K for a very well optioned '06 CS with only a few hundred miles on it that had been purchased new by a doctor and simply never driven. This was more than I wanted or needed to spend for a used CS, but the car was literally in brand new showroom condition and had all the documentation including the original window sticker and sales paperwork. Not a single stone chip or scratch anywhere, even under the front bumper. The only issue for me was that it didn't have PASM. Ultimately, I cared more about getting a car with no miles on it, than one with PASM so I compromised. I looked at it as paying $20K under MSRP for what was essentially a new car, so it was worth it to me, even though there were ones available with similar options that were cheaper (but not in new/perfect condition).

Personally I would offer them what you think it is worth to you and if they don't accept it, keep looking. But... if it is in fantastic shape for the mileage and really is exactly what you want, you probably won't feel bad later about paying a tad more than you originally had in mind. If I had the opportunity to do it again, I would still have paid $47K for mine because it would have been near impossible to find another used CS with under 1,000 miles on it in new condition, particularly with the options and color combo I wanted.

At the end of the day, you will lose money on it regardless, so get what you want and enjoy it!

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The red Cayman in Atlanta isn't certified, it's eligible to be certified. I've been going back and forth with them on it (I actually drove it a few hours ago). We're about $500 apart right now. I don't know what to do. I never even really considered red before, but it does look pretty sharp in person.

$500 bucks? Thats basically nothing on a 40K deal. You should be able to get that deal done....

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1989 Saab 900T
1990 Saab 900TC

I saw the one in Atlanta advertised and it looks like a good deal however it does not have the performance options I'm after and four out of our five vehicles are some shade of red at the moment. There was a very similar car to the Dallas car in FL but with higher miles and a little less money but it sold. It was also offered by a non Porsche dealer.

Dave

If the red CS in Atlanta is NOT CPO, why would they list it for that price on PorscheUSA.com as certified. Also, their own web site says it is certified. Actually it says "Porsche Approved Certified Preowned Vehicle".. isn't that the same as CPO?

I have no idea why it's listed like that. I asked them why the site said it's certified and didn't get a clear answer. Like I said though, it's definitely not CPO.

Come to think of it, it bothers me more than I initially thought it did. We're ~ $300 apart right now (ridiculous, right?) and I was going to just say F-it and go for it, but now I'm hung up on this CPO issue again.

hahaha i love perseverence.

Stick to your task, you could buy a new tyre with that 300 bux

J

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The fact that they are listing the car on two sites as CPO and not honoring it, is bothersome to me. I don't deal with people who are shady. As the saying goes, you cannot make a good deal with a bad guy