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    Nurburgring Run - May.

    Hi Guys, my brother-inlaw and I have decided to "do the Nurburgring" this coming May, after watching many YouTube Videos I am very excited about going, also seeing crashed too make be shiver with fear!

    I do understand the dangers of doing the "ring" so for me it will be more of the case of getting around the ring safetly and not like some mad man late for work!

    I just need a few pointers for the car, mine being the last of the first Gen Cayman S, PASM with Sports Chrono Plus which I feel will assist, 19" Porsche rims, Porsche Sports Exhaust system, upgraded the break duc spoilers to the GT3 ones for better cooling, other than that its stock.

    Next week, my local Porsche dealer will be installing a Fire Extinguisher so my next question is, "what else should I be doing to the car?" from a preparation point of view. Replace break pads, (so far they are original with pleanty of meat left on the bone".

    Any advise would be really appreciated.

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Good tire and safety equipments?
    Other than that I would drive on the ring as is first to see what other improvements are needed and go from there.
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    if its your first visit to the Ring your car and your brakes will be fine its more like a fast road circuit than a short track so your brakes get plenty of time to cool, best tip I can say is when you turn up at the car park at the Ring there is a notice board right next to where you get the tickets make sure you give it a good read! Make sure you put your headlights on and only overtake on the left, dont even try to think about going mad there is so much to learn in the one lap plus ask if you can go out with other drivers cars first just to get a look at the circuit its like nowhere else on the planet
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    You left me puzzled about the crashes you are referring to since it is just a track day event. But I'm no expert, and I wish you all the best as we all look forward to watch your video.
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    My buddies and I are planning something similar in May except he is picking up a BMW 5 series and then we go to Nurburgring. I have been practicing driving on the Xbox 360 Forza 3 to get a feel of the curves and distance. My German friend mentioned that there are high speed Taxis you can hire or if you want to splurge hire a Formula 1-ish ride in modified 2-seater cars.

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by neilparmar View Post
    Hi Guys, my brother-inlaw and I have decided to "do the Nurburgring" this coming May, after watching many YouTube Videos I am very excited about going, also seeing crashed too make be shiver with fear!

    I do understand the dangers of doing the "ring" so for me it will be more of the case of getting around the ring safetly and not like some mad man late for work!

    I just need a few pointers for the car, mine being the last of the first Gen Cayman S, PASM with Sports Chrono Plus which I feel will assist, 19" Porsche rims, Porsche Sports Exhaust system, upgraded the break duc spoilers to the GT3 ones for better cooling, other than that its stock.

    Next week, my local Porsche dealer will be installing a Fire Extinguisher so my next question is, "what else should I be doing to the car?" from a preparation point of view. Replace break pads, (so far they are original with pleanty of meat left on the bone".

    Any advise would be really appreciated.

    Thanks

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    I'm sure you'll get a lot of advice about the Nürburgring (specifically, the Nordschleife). it is indeed a fantastic track. I was just there yesterday (yep, Sunday, 16 Jan 2011). They opened the track on Saturday and Sunday since the weather had cleared up a bit. Was my first time in my "new to me" 2009 Cayman S w/PDK, PASM, and Sport Plus. Even with the winter tiresicon on the car and the snow along the side of the track, it was a great day!

    If you can, try to do your first day on a weekday and not a weekend day. The spring (if the weather is nice) is CRAZY!! There are so many cars and motorcycles that it is pretty dang scary the first few times you go around. The rules are pretty simple. Pass ONLY on the left. It is NOT a race - on public days, essentially German road rules apply. The cost for 2011 is Euro 24 per lap (but you can get some discount off if you buy a 4, 8, etc lap ticket).

    If you've driven the Nordschleife on Forza or GT5, just know that most of us cannot drive as fast in real as we can on the games. There are several bends on the track that I cannot get even close to my Forza speeds.

    As for car prep, just the same as any other track day. If you are planning on spending the day there (maybe 15+ laps), then you'll probably burn out your old brake pads, so you might consider new ones before you head to the Ring.

    Bottom line: leave the "mad man" at home and just enjoy the ride. You can quickly lose it on the Ring and if you do, you'll not only have the cost of the car, but the cost of rescue workers, etc, and the guard rail is about Euro 1500 per meter. Honestly, I've got about 90 laps on the Ring so far and it still scares the **** out of me, but even so, it is just a fantastic ride!!!!

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by HassaanAbdeen View Post
    You left me puzzled about the crashes you are referring to since it is just a track day event. But I'm no expert, and I wish you all the best as we all look forward to watch your video.
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    I think Neil is going on a "public day" and not a private track day (right Neil??). On public days, the saying is that on every lap, you'll either (1) see a wreck, (2) pass a wreck, or (3) be in a wreck!!!! Gotta say I've seen and passed a lot of them on the Nordschleife. Heck, even during a Porsche Sport Driving School event in October, we had several wrecks during guided laps because the track was so wet and slippery. It is a very difficult track!!!!

    Speaking of video, it is still not permitted to video laps on the public day. If they catch you, they'll ban you from the track.....

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by JHE View Post
    Speaking of video, it is still not permitted to video laps on the public day. If they catch you, they'll ban you from the track.....
    What if it is part of the onboard front / rear camera traffic avoidance system integrated with the car?
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Here's a couple links to safety / procedure videos you can watch to get an idea of what to expect and watch out for:

    YouTube - Nürburgring, Nordschleife Safety Video.

    YouTube - Nurburgring Safety Film

    Just take it easy at first!!!

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by JHE View Post
    On public days, the saying is that on every lap, you'll either (1) see a wreck, (2) pass a wreck, or (3) be in a wreck!!!!
    That's a disaster !!! After reading this, I simply wouldn't go there to track my car or attend an event... Is this the case everywhere else on other tracks world wide? I know for sure this is not the case in Bahrain & UAE.

    Why not minimize the number of participants then to reduce the accidents?
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Hi, I'm going on a public day, so hopefully it'll be allot less busy.

    Thanks for the good advice too )
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    THANK YOU ALL for all your advice etc, i'll be taking it easy on the day and making sure all is done to keep it all safe and enjoyable.

    Very much looking forward to it too.
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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by HassaanAbdeen View Post
    That's a disaster !!! After reading this, I simply wouldn't go there to track my car or attend an event... Is this the case everywhere else on other tracks world wide? I know for sure this is not the case in Bahrain & UAE.

    Why not minimize the number of participants then to reduce the accidents?
    I think most incidents on the track are single car incidents caused by overzealous driving and/or oil/fluid slicks on the track. Also note that 1 Nurburgring lap is ~10 laps of any other track (over 20km) and during those days it is open to the public for just a modest fee per lap. Quite a unique situation.

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    Re: Nurburgring Run - May.

    Quote Originally Posted by Methos View Post
    I think most incidents on the track are single car incidents caused by overzealous driving and/or oil/fluid slicks on the track. Also note that 1 Nurburgring lap is ~10 laps of any other track (over 20km) and during those days it is open to the public for just a modest fee per lap. Quite a unique situation.
    Indeed all of the wrecks I've seen or passed are single car (or motorcycle) incidents. The track is long with many elevation changes and lots of blind curves. And, most importantly, there is also no "run off area" along the track, so if you lose it, you're going to buy some railing! Public days are Euro 24 per lap this year (2011) which is about $32.50 per lap at today's exchange rate.

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