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08-28-2009, 09:58 AM
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
I am interested in this as well.
I am thinking of getting a 987.2 next year sometime and would likely get TPC to do the suspension, flywheel, gt3 brakes and turbo.
I am thinking of getting a 6 speed because even though pdk is faster it just isn't as involving as driving manual.
Also wondering if I should bother getting a car with PASM and sport chrono if my intension is to do all this work to it.
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
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I think you would be better off getting TPC's 3.7 Turbo engine. It will have a safer lower compression, and built with a high performance turbo in mind. And they would have some kind of engine warranty that will not exist if you turbo an engine bought from Porsche.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
We have some new things up our sleeves that will be released sometime in the near future... stay tuned.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
going to VIR this weekend so say hello if you see mike/harris out there. here is a pic of our cayman as it sits... getting the suspension to spec with custom wound springs done for us by eibach(thanks eibach) and we have fitted some prototype bars to get it flat through the turns. Picked up a set of 888s and some light weight OZ wheels...
Fun times!
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09-17-2009, 01:17 PM
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Originally Posted by Bodhii
I think you would be better off getting TPC's 3.7 Turbo engine. It will have a safer lower compression, and built with a high performance turbo in mind. And they would have some kind of engine warranty that will not exist if you turbo an engine bought from Porsche.
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Are they even still doing a 3.7? I thought they retired that project?
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
It is currently shelved as we have way too many projects to focus on right now... The amount of demand we got in interest for the 3.7 was far less than others.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
I recently saw a Porsche U-Tube ciip of the 2010 911 Turbo, 3.8L, with now 500HP and PDK and Paddle Shifters and LSD. If PDK could hanadle that, then it should easily handle a Cayman 3.4L turbo. Interested in seeing how this works out. Ed
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
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09-17-2009, 05:25 PM
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Correct me if i'm wrong but the PDK on the 997.2 Turbo is abit different than the one on the Cayman/Carerra which both have way less torque.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
We have a client with a PDK turbo on order... will be here in December. Excited to begin working on it. Couldnt tell you but i am assuming the PDK gearbox is somehow uprated for the turbo car.
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09-18-2009, 04:58 AM
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Just a quick question...
I'm assuming you dynoed a stock PDK Cayman S..What are the stock figures for whp and wtq?
Thanks.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Finishing up our single turbo 997 at the moment. Then we will finish our 997.2 and then our manual transmission 987.2 and the the PDK...
Sorry if i tease people but we have been really busy with magazine shoots and track prep. The winter months will be great for R&D, promise to have lots of info coming soon. If you want the most up to date stuff be our facebook friend... i know it is cheesy but i post highlights from all of our most interesting builds there.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Originally Posted by Casey@TPCRacing
We have a client with a PDK turbo on order... will be here in December. Excited to begin working on it. Couldnt tell you but i am assuming the PDK gearbox is somehow uprated for the turbo car.
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how is the 987.2 PDK turbo kit comming along?
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
almost done with the 997 cars... then comes the 987 cars. prepping cars for daytona this weekend has kept us very busy.
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... almost done with the 997 cars... then comes the 987 cars.
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Even at TPC the 987 is relegated to 2nd class status? Ouch! I thought you guys were true believers. (joking)
Well anyway, you guys certainly do your part in making the 987 Cayman as good as it can be. (BTW which is a superior platform to the 997!)
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Are the ratios in the new Gen 2 gearbox the same as Gen 1 i.e. are they still hobbling the car with longer ratios compared to the 911?
Have you guys ever considered swapping the ratios to mate with the increased perfromance?
p.s. I wish the tuning community was as prevalent in the UK, I'd seriously consider a turbo conversion...
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Go visit the guys over at PARR, they have done great work with our products so far! Honestly, i am not sure of the overall gear ratios in the .2 cars... we will see.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Sweet, Could you build A twin turbo? Forgive my ignorance.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
we certainly could chris but we have this system so optimized at this point that going to a different system would be moving backwards. Not to mention that the system would cost significantly more. Sorry for the delay in response.
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Re: Breaking: 987.2 Turbo Build DFI PDK
Hey Casey, I have question for you too.
I own a Manual '06 Cayman S with the Turbo kit, plus some millitek headers installed. It really is an awesome kit, explosive power, loved it...
Unfortunately, the cars front end took serious damage from a fairly recent accident, it also destroyed the front radiator btw.. real sad.. So, I was considering a new Boxster Spyder and i was hoping to use the turbo on my new car as well. However, with the whole DFI thing and what not, im uncertain about what to do.
Sooo.. Here's my question:
Is there a way to upgrade my current Turbo Kit to fit this new DFI engine or am i better off fixing up the Cayman and keeping it there???
Thx in advance...
Keep up the great work TPC!!
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Direct Fuel Injection (DFI), is a new technology that Porsche states can cut fuel consumption by up to 15 percent, while increasing power by up to 13 percent. DFI cuts emissions by warming up the catalytic converter more quickly, and ensures a sharper throttle response. Better for your right foot - and the planet, then.
DFI allows much more precise measurement of fuel supply and injection at pressures up to 120 bar; it has numerous combustion modes, with different cycles for cold-starting, low-speed driving and performance driving.
As the name suggests, DFI injects fuel directly into the individual combustion chambers, instead of the intake manifold. The injector valves have an electromagnetic mechanism that controls each injection with astonishing precision, while a high-pressure pump provides the necessary pressure—up to 1,740 psi—to accompany the rapid fire of the fuel injection.
Precise geometry of the injector’s position and its spray pattern is a key factor in helping to improve power, torque and emissions of the engines. The specific placement of the fuel as it enters each chamber creates a swirl that improves the air/fuel mixture, and therefore the overall combustion process.
At engine speeds up to 3500 rpm, a double-injection process is used. In this mode, the required fuel volume is delivered in two successive injections per working stroke. The resulting benefits include faster catalyst warm-up and increased torque in the upper load range.
By forming the air/fuel mix directly in the combustion chamber, DFI contributes to engine cooling. As a result, it is possible to increase the compression ratio and with it the power and efficiency of the engine.
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