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    TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    So here is the wrap up on the Cayman S with the TPCicon turbo kit... You can read the full install article with pics HERE.

    We delivered the car to the customer who was very happy. We decided to add a Greddy Boost Controller to the unit and set the boost at 5psi. We hid the unit in the glove box which will allow the customer to change if necessary. Here in AZ it is very hot right now and we only have 91oct gas. The wastegate spring pressure would only make about 3.5psi so we we needed more boost to be on target. Since this is a daily driver, we never wanted to test with octane booster or race gas as that would not make sense in this case. We like to give our independent results. As you can see from the YouTube video above, this car is a blast to drive. The overall quality I would give is a 8 out of 10 as some aspects of the kit are just tough given the space and function to make a certain way. The only thing I would personally add to the kit is a blow off valve on the intercooler pipe to relieve the pressure between shifts. Even though it is only making 5psi, there is still a small amount of compressor surge. The installation is a long and tough one. 35hours is what is quoted, but get ready for about 50hours.

    Now for the numbers... This car came to us with a couple of mods: Milltek exhaust, Milltek high flow cat headers, IPD Plenum, and REVO ECU Flash. This put the baseline at 256rwhp and 225ft/lbs of torque. Ambient temperature of about 100F. Our best dyno on 91oct and 5.5psi and 100F was 315rwhp as seen here. People doing the math will say that is only a 60HP gain? TPC shows a 150HP gain... Wait. Understand that this baseline had all the mods that most of you do now. TPC tested a BONE stock Cayman S using 93oct and ambient temperature of around 68F. Both the temperature and higher octane makes a HUGE HUGE difference in the cars performance. So there is 2 ways to look at this. First, the turbo kit gains 60HP over standard bolt on mods, not bad. If you look at another Cayman S baseline we did here, you will see that the car on our Mustang Dyno baselined at 218rwhp and 193ft/lbs of torque. Same ambient temp, same Cayman S, same dyno. So really we gained about 100rwhp and 100ft/lbs of torque with the TPC Turbo Kit for the Cayman S. Having had the TPC Supercharger on my own 996C2, we also gained 100rwhp on 91oct proven on our dyno.

    So lets talk real world $$$ per horsepower so you can decide how to spend your money.
    • Milltek Exhaust, Milltek Headers, IPD Plenum, REVO ECU Flash - $6786 + labor for 38rwhp/32ft/lbs

    • Bone Stock Cayman S with TPC Turbo Kit including all Mods/Tuning - $10500 + labor for 100rwhp/100ft/lbs


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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Thanks for the review. That was very enlightening. Unfortunately for those that have already gone the route of plenum, flash, and exhaust (and maybe headers) like myself, it would mean $15k for 100rwhp/100ft/lbs. So rough guess, we're talking another $3500 for the TPCicon install?

    Still nice to know there is an option if we ever feel the urge to bump up the performance another notch.

    Thank again for your honest review.

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post

    As you can see from the YouTube video above, this car is a blast to drive.

    So lets talk real world $$$ per horsepower so you can decide how to spend your money.
    • Milltek Exhaust, Milltek Headers, IPD Plenum, REVO ECU Flash - $6786 + labor for 38rwhp/32ft/lbs

    • Bone Stock Cayman S with TPCicon Turbo Kit including all Mods/Tuning - $10500 + labor for 100rwhp/100ft/lbs


    Now what would you do?
    Couldn't find the you tube clip. ??

    The guys here in CA, with the Californa Air Resources Board restrictions, and smog rules are still aced out of the TPC option. I know people have done it, but since no converted CSs have been tested (AFAIK), and/or passed, I am still waiting for TPC to get CARB certification.

    So we will have to live with Plenum/TB, exhaust and ECU flash mods.

    Edit: Is this the You Tube clip showing its a blast to drive?

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    You can view the entire build including the YouTube video here - Turbo Boosted Porsche Cayman Project Begins - Vivid Racing

    For those that have already done the basic mods, sell the parts and recoupe 50% of it



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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
    You can view the entire build including the YouTube video here - Turbo Boosted Porsche Cayman Project Begins - Vivid Racing

    For those that have already done the basic mods, sell the parts and recoupe 50% of it


    That's my plan.
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Re did the you tube embed

    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
    To embed YT clips, put the 10 letter indicator only between the YT brackets.



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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
    We decided to add a Greddy Boost Controller to the unit and set the boost at 5psi. We hid the unit in the glove box which will allow the customer to change if necessary.
    Do you have a picture of how it looks inside the glove compartment? I loved the idea as the Boost Controller took the space in front of the gear shifter that I used for my phone!
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    I dont. Will ask the owner to snap a pic for us

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Check it out!


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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Very smart.... although I'd have it completely hidden with only the front panel showing out at the pen's location.

    I'll keep it in mind until the time for suspension mods come.
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by vividracing View Post
    So here is the wrap up on the Cayman S with the TPCicon turbo kit... You can read the full install article with pics HERE.

    We delivered the car to the customer who was very happy. We decided to add a Greddy Boost Controller to the unit and set the boost at 5psi. We hid the unit in the glove box which will allow the customer to change if necessary. Here in AZ it is very hot right now and we only have 91oct gas. The wastegate spring pressure would only make about 3.5psi so we we needed more boost to be on target. Since this is a daily driver, we never wanted to test with octane booster or race gas as that would not make sense in this case. We like to give our independent results. As you can see from the YouTube video above, this car is a blast to drive. The overall quality I would give is a 8 out of 10 as some aspects of the kit are just tough given the space and function to make a certain way. The only thing I would personally add to the kit is a blow off valve on the intercooler pipe to relieve the pressure between shifts. Even though it is only making 5psi, there is still a small amount of compressor surge. The installation is a long and tough one. 35hours is what is quoted, but get ready for about 50hours.

    Now for the numbers... This car came to us with a couple of mods: Milltek exhaust, Milltek high flow cat headers, IPD Plenum, and REVO ECU Flash. This put the baseline at 256rwhp and 225ft/lbs of torque. Ambient temperature of about 100F. Our best dyno on 91oct and 5.5psi and 100F was 315rwhp as seen here. People doing the math will say that is only a 60HP gain? TPC shows a 150HP gain... Wait. Understand that this baseline had all the mods that most of you do now. TPC tested a BONE stock Cayman S using 93oct and ambient temperature of around 68F. Both the temperature and higher octane makes a HUGE HUGE difference in the cars performance. So there is 2 ways to look at this. First, the turbo kit gains 60HP over standard bolt on mods, not bad. If you look at another Cayman S baseline we did here, you will see that the car on our Mustang Dyno baselined at 218rwhp and 193ft/lbs of torque. Same ambient temp, same Cayman S, same dyno. So really we gained about 100rwhp and 100ft/lbs of torque with the TPC Turbo Kit for the Cayman S. Having had the TPC Supercharger on my own 996C2, we also gained 100rwhp on 91oct proven on our dyno.


    So lets talk real world $$$ per horsepower so you can decide how to spend your money.
    • Milltek Exhaust, Milltek Headers, IPD Plenum, REVO ECU Flash - $6786 + labor for 38rwhp/32ft/lbs

    • Bone Stock Cayman S with TPC Turbo Kit including all Mods/Tuning - $10500 + labor for 100rwhp/100ft/lbs

    Now what would you do Check out all the TPC Turbo Options Here.

    1. I had the full Milteck system and a Softronicicon flash = 278 rwhp -- 93 0ctane
    2. Now I am at 478 rwhp -- larger turbo @ 6lbs of boost -- 93 octane plus fabsteed headers

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by peter f cummiskey View Post
    Now I am at 478 rwhp -- larger turbo @ 6lbs of boost -- 93 octane plus fabsteed headers
    Peter, since I didn't get a chance to dyno my car,
    1) What is the maximum figure you get to see on the Profe B LCD Screen that you interpreted to 6lbs boost?
    2) can you please list all mods you installed from TPCicon that got you the 478rwhp?

    I wanna see if I'll be matching that HP or coming short.

    Thank you in advance.
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    Is Sport Chrono disabled or still active with the turbo kit? If still active, does it make difference in engine response time? Thanks.
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    So the parts cost $10k, how much have you guys been paying for your labor to install it?
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by c-rizzle View Post
    So the parts cost $10k, how much have you guys been paying for your labor to install it?
    Here is the breakdown for my case that had the 550HP bigger turbo and my own car related problems:
    kit installation => 35 man-hour
    engine leakage => 15 man-hour
    headers installation => 3 man-hours
    A/C problem => 15 man-hour

    add to the aboveL oils, coolants, spare parts, miscellaneous items, paint job, clear bra, detailing, custom emblems, international shipping back & forth and local car shipping back and forth.

    Painful... yes very painful. But all it takes is to take my Villainous for a drive and I'd feel like a naughty man in eternal heaven
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by HassaanAbdeen View Post
    Peter, since I didn't get a chance to dyno my car,
    1) What is the maximum figure you get to see on the Profe B LCD Screen that you interpreted to 6lbs boost?
    2) can you please list all mods you installed from TPCicon that got you the 478rwhp?

    I wanna see if I'll be matching that HP or coming short.

    Thank you in advance.
    Hassaan,

    1. Do not understand # 1.
    2. My mods are listed under my picture....

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by HassaanAbdeen View Post
    What is the maximum figure you get to see on the Profe B LCD Screen that you interpreted to 6lbs boost?
    Hassaan,

    If the unit still has the default settings straight out of the box, then it will take some adjustments to establish the boost numbers you want.

    To check your peak boost, hit the mode switch (bottom button on the left) 5 times for the peak boost screen. It will be the first blue screen past the two orange screens.

    If the set gain is correct then that will be a consistent reading for maximum boost and not a spike.

    If you are set to display in “bar” then the decimal number shown will be the fraction of 14.7 psi. For example a display of 0.41 is 6.027 pounds of boost. (0.41 x 14.7 = 6.027)

    The greddy manual shows how to clear the last reading.

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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by peter f cummiskey View Post
    Hassaan,

    1. Do not understand # 1.
    2. My mods are listed under my picture....

    Peter
    My LCD screen shows the figure 33 (max boost) when I push the car so hard. What about yours that got you 6psi?
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Quote Originally Posted by tach miami View Post
    (0.41 x 14.7 = 6.027)
    0.41

    Hmm... so you guys are getting more boost than me

    I should consult with Mike later if he recommends I increase my limiter or not. Maybe due to the heat he doesn't.

    Thank you for your explanation.
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    Re: TPC Turbo Kit Completed. Good Comparison!

    Im interested too. Whats is everyone paying for a the installation of the TPCicon turbo kit? TIA


    Quote Originally Posted by c-rizzle View Post
    So the parts cost $10k, how much have you guys been paying for your labor to install it?

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