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11-22-2008, 04:37 AM
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PSE on an 06?
Hi all,
New to he site and looking to buy my 2nd Cayman. My dealer tells me you cannot fit a PSE to an 06 car, can anyone confirm? Also will fitting a milteck or similar void any Porsche extended waranty?
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John
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11-23-2008, 03:29 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
everything voids the new porsche warranty these days
cannot see many people forking out £1300 either.
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11-24-2008, 03:35 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Ryder35
Hi all,
New to he site and looking to buy my 2nd Cayman. My dealer tells me you cannot fit a PSE to an 06 car, can anyone confirm? Also will fitting a milteck or similar void any Porsche extended waranty?
Thanks all
John
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John, It can be fitted, Just the wiring and switch are a pain and costly to do from Porsche, and, after hearing one, I wouldn't bother anyway.
As far as fitting aftermarket. Again as previously posted on other threads, if you listen to some people and some Porsche dealers, If you fit a air freshener then you car isn't covered, in reality I've never had a problem, and my car has, shall we say, a few extra's fitted.
So get the bits you want, to make the car as you want it. But bare in mind that Porsche wont warranty your exhaust....if it's not theirs !!
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11-24-2008, 08:09 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Ryder35
Hi all,
New to he site and looking to buy my 2nd Cayman. My dealer tells me you cannot fit a PSE to an 06 car, can anyone confirm? Also will fitting a milteck or similar void any Porsche extended waranty?
Thanks all
John
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Just got my reply as I also wanted the PSE on my 2006. Cannot be fitted due to the absence of necessary wiring and vacuum lines. At least not performed by Porsche as a "Retrofit".
Can be done by others if purchased all necessary parts but costly and requires a lot of labor.
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11-27-2008, 06:07 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Sorry, beg to differ. I spoke to a guy with a 2005 model 987 S boxster with the 3.2 engine. He had a full PSE system fitted to his car by mid sussex porsche a few years back. I rang mid sussex porsche to confirm this. The PSE is not a direct plug and play on earlier cars , because there is no plug in the engine bay ready to connect to. The operation of the PSE is driven by the rear DME which also controls other hardware on the car. Providing you have a porsche technician that can read a wiring diagram , they can splice into the correct wire from the DME to trigger the PSE as its intended to operate. In essence all the PSE requires to work is a vacuum from the inlet manifold and an electronic trigger for the car's ECU/ DME. Strosek also offer a controller for their PSE style exhaust , that can piggy back on the existing car's controls. It's also user adjustable as to when it cuts in and by how much the flaps open. It is easier to add the PSE to a car with sport chrono PASM than one without as the sport button doubles as the PSE switch.
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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11-27-2008, 06:26 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Good answer berty987
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11-27-2008, 06:33 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Tess Tickle
Good answer berty987
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11-27-2008, 09:37 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Don't get all smarty pants on me Karel, I used to build my own Engine's and gearboxes when I could see what I was doing !!!  ....some time ago then !!!
Anyway....why are you not an insider yet, must be about due for a donation...
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11-27-2008, 09:45 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Tess Tickle
Don't get all smarty pants on me Karel, I used to build my own Engine's and gearboxes when I could see what I was doing !!!  ....some time ago then !!!
Anyway....why are you not an insider yet, must be about due for a donation... 
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Yes, Well things have advanced beyond the 'Age of Steam'.
Those of us who rebuilt BMC 'B' Series Engines - such as Thee and Me, on our MGB Roadsters, have an inkling of what we are talking about........
All Others may well be adrift.............
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11-27-2008, 11:45 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by kareldeeley
Yes, Well things have advanced beyond the 'Age of Steam'.
Those of us who rebuilt BMC 'B' Series Engines - such as Thee and Me, on our MGB Roadsters, have an inkling of what we are talking about........
All Others may well be adrift.............
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Karel you didn't answer my comment about the insider program ??? never mind side valves
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11-28-2008, 03:06 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Tess Tickle
Karel you didn't answer my comment about the insider program ??? never mind side valves
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1) Buying Assistance - in the USA - Plus I already have a Cayman........ NO
2) Discounts LSD/ Radar - in the USA - Already have LSD/ Radar............ NO
3) Auctions - Most Stuff I Already Have - Shipping from USA Prohibitive. NO
4) Insider Discussions/Priveleges - I Just Ask You............................... NO
5) Assistance - Mods and Admin - Only Roll Bar and Supercharger Left... NO
Please Forgive - But for Me in the UK - I Cannot see the Benefit of This Program..........
I Do Donate Freely..............
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LSD - Limited Slip Differential
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A limited slip differential (LSD) is a modified or derived type of differential gear arrangement that allows for some difference in rotational velocity of the output shafts, but does not allow the difference in speed to increase beyond a preset amount. In an automobile, such limited slip differentials are sometimes used in place of a standard differential, where they convey certain dynamic advantages, at the expense of greater complexity.
The main advantage of a limited slip differential is found by considering the case of a standard (or "open") differential where one wheel has no contact with the ground at all. In such a case, the contacting wheel will remain stationary, and the non-contacting wheel will rotate freely– the torque transmitted will be equal at both wheels, but will not exceed the threshold of torque needed to move the vehicle, thus the vehicle will remain stationary. In everyday use on typical roads, such a situation is very unlikely, and so a normal differential suffices. For more demanding use however, such as driving off-road, or for high performance vehicles, such a state of affairs is undesirable, and the LSD can be employed to deal with it. By limiting the velocity difference between a pair of driven wheels, useful torque can be transmitted as long as there is some friction available on at least one of the wheels.
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Last edited by kareldeeley; 11-28-2008 at 03:12 AM.
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11-28-2008, 04:09 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Fair enough, but what happens when there is an offer on that goes to insiders first, I would suggest that the Group Buy on Alcon Brakes for example, is going to be offered to insiders in the first instance. If your not an insider you wont even know about it...!!....just a thought. and as you regularly donate you might as well have an extra label for it
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11-28-2008, 05:08 AM
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Re: PSE on an 06?
Originally Posted by Tess Tickle
Fair enough, but what happens when there is an offer on that goes to insiders first, I would suggest that the Group Buy on Alcon Brakes for example, is going to be offered to insiders in the first instance. If your not an insider you wont even know about it...!!....just a thought. and as you regularly donate you might as well have an extra label for it 
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Ah Ha....... I am An 'Inside' Insider......... And I Do Know About it.....!!
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