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04-01-2009, 09:51 AM
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IPD Plenum - UK
Hi,
Am thinking of fitting the IPD plenum to my Cayman S.
Anyone recommend a UK distributor or a US company that will ship to the UK.
I know Parr sell the IPD which is sourced via Cargraphic (!) for £1080 (£1269 inc. VAT) or £1457 fully fitted.
Anyone else gone down this route?
Thanks,
John
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04-01-2009, 11:57 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
One of our sponsors here ( RSS ) will certainly sell to you and ship to the UK.
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04-02-2009, 07:23 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Hi,
Am thinking of fitting the IPD plenum to my Cayman S.
Anyone recommend a UK distributor or a US company that will ship to the UK.
I know Parr sell the IPD which is sourced via Cargraphic (!) for £1080 (£1269 inc. VAT) or £1457 fully fitted.
Anyone else gone down this route?
Thanks,
John
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04-03-2009, 02:07 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Sounds good Karel - will give you a shout Sunday morning.
Have installed Dynolicious on my iphone so maybe we can do some comparative testing? ;-)
Now on to more serious matters - what biscuits do you prefer?
cheers,
John
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04-03-2009, 02:36 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Sounds good Karel - will give you a shout Sunday morning.
Have installed Dynolicious on my iphone so maybe we can do some comparative testing? ;-)
Now on to more serious matters - what biscuits do you prefer?
cheers,
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Serious Matters....
If You Can Find These - Retro Delights...... Abbey Crunch...
(Or Plain Hob Nobs as a Close Second..... - Is This Cayman Related?)
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04-03-2009, 03:04 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Definitely O/T but I am hoping that our findings from Sunday will make up for it.
Alas - I believe that McVities dropped Abbey Crunch from their range a number of years ago.
However, all hope is not lost as Fox's do a Butter Crinkle Crunch which I am led to believe are very similar.
I feel another head-to-head coming along!
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04-03-2009, 03:15 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Definitely O/T but I am hoping that our findings from Sunday will make up for it.
Alas - I believe that McVities dropped Abbey Crunch from their range a number of years ago.
However, all hope is not lost as Fox's do a Butter Crinkle Crunch which I am led to believe are very similar.
I feel another head-to-head coming along!
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04-03-2009, 05:58 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Sure - will give you a shout Sunday am.
Wide selection of biscuits have been secured - roll-on Sunday!
cheers
John
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04-05-2009, 05:38 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Sure - will give you a shout Sunday am.
Wide selection of biscuits have been secured - roll-on Sunday!
cheers
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Good to See You John.............. Thanks for the Biscuits!!!!
Hope the Coffee was OK.....
I'd Be Interested to Know Your Impressions of Driving the 'Yellow Peril' - Compared to Driving Your Standard CS - With Milltek Cat[Less]Back. (As Would Other CaymanClub Members)
Particularly the New 4.1 Software I am Evaluating - As Regards General Street Driving and the Performance Output...........
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04-05-2009, 03:00 PM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
I would conclude: "Loud" and "Fast" from my previous experience
So would now be: "Louder" and "Faster"..................................correct? ?
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04-05-2009, 04:36 PM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Hi Karel,
Really good to meet you and coffee was great!
Thanks for letting me drive the 'Yellow Peril' - was v. generous of you. Impressions are:
- Power & Torque: Much more power and torque everywhere in the powerband. Feels like a very well sorted larger capacity engine. Good pick-up low-down, fantastic mid-range and as for the top-end...took me a while (and much encouragement) to hang-on to the raised rev-limiter and to hold it to the red-line!
- Brakes - Noticeably sharper than the EBC reds that you spotted I have on my car! Even though you warned me that they might not feel as good until they had warmed up I found they had great initial bite and still good progression and feel. As much as I love Porsche brakes and their lack of servo sometimes they can feel a bit wooden unless you press through them. Much preferred your brakes and reminded me of the the APs I had on my previous car.
- Suspension and handling - Not as stiff as I was expecting given the drop in ride height and spring changes. More compliant than my car with PASM in sport mode. No issues with tramlining or rough surfaces. Turn-in was fantastic, particularly power on through corners with much better drive and hook-up from the front (most likely the diff). I had to consciously wind off lock as I was expecting that it would need more input to turn. More pointy and yet planted than my car - can imagine that it would be fantastic round a track.
- Refinement and driveability - As I mentioned during the drive, good that overall driveability hasn't been compromised in search for more power. Slot it into 6th and it is as refined as my CS with the Miltek cat-back, no boom or droning cruising in the 2 - 3K range. But let's not kid ourselves, when you're 'making progress' you definitely know you're not driving a regular CS with the induction noise, resonance (from the headers?) and whine from the transmission/diff. Great that you can have both characteristics in one car.
- Character - Having come from an M3 CSL, this was what I was looking for as I find the standard CS just a bit too competent (dare I say clinical?) for it's own good. The power delivery is so smooth and linear that you are doing a rapid rate of knots before you even realise and the chassis is so competent that you rarely have any problems. The YP feels like an intensified CS experience (like turning it up to 11!) but not a compromised one. It has much more character in it's power delivery - everything from the induction, to the mid-range punch to that extended top-end - and all of the feel from steering, ride, brakes, handling are much sharper than the standard car but still retain all of the delicacy that I find wonderful in the CS.
Given how much time, thought and effort you have put to get the maximum out of your car this isn't surprising but I think that the biggest compliment I can give is that it never felt like a 'tuned' car - it just feels very well sorted and if Porsche were to make a Clubsport or GT3 version of the Cayman I can imagine it would be something very similar to yours.
Anyway, hope that helps - as I said will be thinking of the next steps for my car. I won't be making it as track-orientated as yours but will be looking for a bit more character as a fast-road car.
Thanks again and looking forward to our plenum discussions!
Kind regards,
John
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
Need more information about PASM? Click this link: FAQ for PASM |
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04-06-2009, 12:07 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by JackWood
I would conclude: "Loud" and "Fast" from my previous experience
So would now be: "Louder" and "Faster"..................................correct? ?
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Jack it is Now 'Quieter and Faster' in The Low and Mid Ranges -
You Are Correct at the Top End........... Loud and MayBe a Little Faster...... (But Not Louder)
Heaven Knows What Chris Harris Would Have Made of Driving the 'Yellow Peril'!
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04-06-2009, 01:39 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Impressions are:
- Power & Torque: Much more power and torque everywhere in the powerband. Feels like a very well sorted larger capacity engine.
- Brakes - Noticeably sharper than the EBC reds that you spotted I have on my car!
- Suspension and handling - Not as stiff as I was expecting given the drop in ride height and spring changes. More compliant than my car with PASM in sport mode. More pointy and yet planted than my car - can imagine that it would be fantastic round a track.
- Refinement and driveability - Good that overall driveability hasn't been compromised in search for more power. Let's not kid ourselves, when you're 'making progress' you definitely know you're not driving a regular CS, with the induction noise, resonance (from the headers?) and whine from the transmission/diff. Great that you can have both characteristics in one car.
- Character - The YP feels like an intensified CS experience (like turning it up to 11!) but not a compromised one. It has much more character in it's power delivery - everything from the induction, to the mid-range punch to that extended top-end - and all of the feel from steering, ride, brakes, handling are much sharper than the standard car but still retain all of the delicacy that I find wonderful in the CS.
Given how much time, thought and effort you have put to get the maximum out of your car this isn't surprising, but I think that the biggest compliment I can give, is that it never felt like a 'tuned' car - it just feels Very Well Sorted, and if Porsche were to make a Clubsport or GT3 version of the Cayman I can imagine it would be something very similar to yours.
Kind regards,
John
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Great To See You - And Thanks for Driving (As I Said - I Was Probably Still 'Over the Limit' - After the Night Before)!
To Address the Points Highlighted Above.............
Power and Torque; The 4.1 SRP Certainly Gives - Regular Driveability and Power Beyond Compare.
Brakes; Can Be Easily Improved with ATP Blue/Gold Race Fluid, Stainless Steel Braided Hoses, YellowStuff Pads and A 'Good Bleeding' - Including the Clutch Cylinder (Fed off the Same Circuit)
Suspension; Simple Changes - Trusting to Eibach and H&R - (The Masters......)
Combined with 'Modest' Geometry (Hybrid Road/Track)
Refinement Driveability; Resonance above 6,000 Revs is from the 'Catless' MillTek Cat Back (The Same As You Have Fitted!) As For the Quaife ATB/Diff, Words Fail Me.... And Regards Transmission Noise at High Energy Levels - Remember, I Have Solid Transmission Mountings, and a Rear Lower Stress Bar, which Transmit Vibration Directly to the Chassis - (But Keep the Chassis Extremely Stiff). In Regular Driving, You Do Not Notice it - But at Low Revs, You can 'Hear' the Gear Changes!
Character; Drive it Modestly Around Town = Quiet & Placid, But a 'Beast' Given Red Meat - When You Open the Responsive Throttle.....!
John,
Many Thanks for your Review, Your Report Was - That of A Seasoned 'Top Gear' Reporter - My English/Understanding - Is Not as Good, as That - Many Compliments. (My Driving is Little Better......! Any Guesses Why I did Not do More than 2 Seasons - Formula Ford 1600?)
Hope That You Agree that the Nomenclature of the 'Yellow Peril' as a 'Cayman GT' Is a True and Fair Representation?
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PASM - Porsche Active Suspension Management
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This active damping system offers continuous adjustment of individual damping forces based on current road conditions and driving style.
The driver can choose from two setup modes, ‘Normal’ and ‘Sport’, using a separate ‘damper’ button on the center console. ‘Normal’ mode is designed for general road driving and circuits with uneven tarmac. ‘Sport’ mode is intended for smoother track surfaces, where the harder settings help eliminate pitch and roll.
In either mode, PASM continuously evaluates the current conditions while automatically selecting the corresponding damper rates from the respective set of mapped values.
A range of sensors are used to monitor the movement of the body under acceleration, braking and cornering maneuvers, as well as on poor road surfaces. The PASM control unit then evaluates this data and modifies the damping force on each individual wheel in accordance with the selected mode. The result is a significant reduction in body movement as well as a better grip on the road.
For example: if ‘Sport’ mode is selected, the suspension is automatically set to a harder damper rating. If the quality of the track surface falls below a certain threshold, the system immediately changes to a softer rating within the ‘Sport’ setup range. When the quality of the tarmac improves once more, PASM automatically returns to the original, harder rating.
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04-06-2009, 02:30 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by kareldeeley
John,
Hope That You Agree that the Nomenclature of the 'Yellow Peril' as 'Cayman GT' Is a True and Fair Representation?
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Absolutely - you should give Chris a shout on Driver's Republic and see if he is interested in doing a piece on your car. I know he is a big fan of the Cayman and am sure he would find yours intriguing!
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04-06-2009, 02:41 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Absolutely - you should give Chris a shout on Driver's Republic and see if he is interested in doing a piece on your car. I know he is a big fan of the Cayman and am sure he would find yours intriguing!
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Jack Wood, Any Chance? (With Your Connections?)
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04-06-2009, 02:47 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by crash
Absolutely - you should give Chris a shout on Driver's Republic and see if he is interested in doing a piece on your car. I know he is a big fan of the Cayman and am sure he would find yours intriguing!
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Many Thanks, And As My Son Says (When I Am Not in the 'Yellow Peril' With Him).
" It Goes Much Faster, Accellerating, Braking, Around Corners, When You're ('Sad, Fat, Old Git') Not in the Passenger Seat......"
The Gratitude of the Younger Generation!!!!!
Sad But True - John, Without Me in the Passenger Seat of the 'YP' - Your Experience Would Have Been Improved.....! (Maybe, I Provided 'Ballast' For Rear Grip [Clutching at Straws]?)
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04-06-2009, 04:26 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by kareldeeley
Jack Wood, Any Chance? (With Your Connections?)
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I have exchanged some emails in the past with Steve Davies (guy who set up Driver's Republic and recruited Chris Harris and co) as we both ran M3 CSLs.
They are a bunch of petrolheads and I have followed Chris's columns on both DR and GT Porsche - when he ran a Cayman and also his 911 restoration project ('Kermit').
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04-06-2009, 04:28 AM
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Re: IPD Plenum - UK
Originally Posted by kareldeeley
Many Thanks, And As My Son Says (When I Am Not in the 'Yellow Peril' With Him).
" It Goes Much Faster, Accellerating, Braking, Around Corners, When You're ('Sad, Fat, Old Git') Not in the Passenger Seat......"
The Gratitude of the Younger Generation!!!!!
Sad But True - John, Without Me in the Passenger Seat of the 'YP' - Your Experience Would Have Been Improved.....! (Maybe, I Provided 'Ballast' For Rear Grip [Clutching at Straws]?)
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Ha! I don't think that I would have stretched the Yellow Peril as much as I did without you in the car!
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