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03-27-2007, 07:46 PM
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I got the same response from Ed on my classified. I assume some people do get scammed by these con artists, otherwise they wouldn't continue to do it. Thanks for the warning.
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03-27-2007, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by K-Man S
Or we could dump Kaiser in the wastebin as well.
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cute ken. class act.
can't tell you how much i've missed you.
i feel safe knowing you're watching out for our best interests.
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03-27-2007, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by KaiserSozay
cute ken. class act.
can't tell you how much i've missed you.
i feel safe knowing you're watching out for our best interests.
thanks.
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I'm assuming you got your scam warning PM then? You haven't sent your checkbook to Ghana or Nigeria have you?
It's always good to be missed...
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03-27-2007, 08:42 PM
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He contacted me as well and I told him that I would contact my attorney and seee what he thought of this transaction. Neeedless to say that was the last I heard from him.
It was also that Ed Crouch.
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03-27-2007, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by kimchang
Sure, send Mr. Douchebag an email to get your email address registered permanently on the National Nigerian Scam Mailing List. 
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I sometimes reply (from garbage account at hotmail) that I'm really sorry, but if ONLY they had contacted me a week earlier, I would have obliged them. But now I am in the process of helping out Mister X in the African country of Y get HIS millions out of the country. And that in good faith I indeed sent Mister X a check for 5 million dollars.
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03-28-2007, 12:09 PM
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Re: Ed Crouch
I just got my scam request from Ed Crouch ready to buy my 993 c4s and he wants to know how I want the money.... he wants to have someone else pick it up for him... YEA RIGHT..... I got a similar email about 2 mos. ago from a guy in England and I was smart enough to know that people don't buy cars sight unseen.duh.. Glad I checked this out on the website before I even responded to the jerk... The only thing this dude will get from me is my big tires ,under my big flared rear end (the cars not mine)  , rolling over his head !!! Wishful thinking...
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03-28-2007, 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PORSCHEGAL
I just got my scam request from Ed Crouch ready to buy my 993 c4s and he wants to know how I want the money.... he wants to have someone else pick it up for him... YEA RIGHT..... I got a similar email about 2 mos. ago from a guy in England and I was smart enough to know that people don't buy cars sight unseen.duh.. Glad I checked this out on the website before I even responded to the jerk... The only thing this dude will get from me is my big tires ,under my big flared rear end (the cars not mine)  , rolling over his head !!! Wishful thinking...
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Porschegal,
Did you get the PM from management here warning about this guy? You should have received one. Glad you didn't fall for it.
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03-28-2007, 01:33 PM
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Check clearing
Just to kind of fill out all the information on the check scam, check clearing in the USA is not what it used to be. Due to federal banking rules that were aimed at letting people have access to their money, short time limits were set on when you can access funds that were deposited by check. (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expedit...ailability_Act)
So you get access to the funds and you therefore think the check has "cleared." It has not. It can take a week or more. If you spend the money, you have to pay it back. (There was an article in the Washington Post about a senior citizen who got scammed by this...sad story.)
That's what really kicked off this scam.
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03-30-2007, 03:58 PM
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I got an Email from Ed (edwcrouch_us@operamail.com) wanted to buy my Exhaust tip. The Email as follow:
Hello Lam,
Thanks for your mail i want you to know that the price $200 is okay with me.In respect of payment i have a client in the U.S who is owing me $2,330. All i need to do to make payment easier and faster is to instruct him to issue a cashiers check and mail it to you on the address and name you want on the check and you know it takes 24hrs for a cashiers check to clear in the U.S.
But i would want to know if i can trust you to send my balance to me via western union or money gram after the money must have cleared in your bank to enable me prepay the shipping company here so that they can instruct their office in the U.S to come for the pick-up from your location.pls mail me asap to enable me arrange payment.Furnish me with your name and address,so i will forward it to my client for payment.
Best Regards,
Ed.
Should I take the bate? LOL
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05-12-2008, 11:11 AM
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Just a reminder that from time to time there are people still trying to pull this scam on members from our Classifieds. We have a scam warning posted at the top of the Classifieds page, just thought I'd post a refresher/reminder not to fall for something like this.
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05-12-2008, 11:29 AM
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LLL,
Do it, I've started a collection of these checks... they really look real! You can use them to joke with your friends.
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05-13-2008, 05:47 AM
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Wonder why its called the 419 scam?
Also, could I bother someone to elaborate more on HOW this scam goes, is it that after u cash the cheque you'd need to pay it back?!
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05-13-2008, 06:37 AM
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Advance fee fraud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The FINAL word on 419 scams
The basic premise is that the 'purchaser' sends you a forged out of state cashiers check, the seller deposits it and assumes it has been accepted and some banks even show the funds in the account; however out of state checks can take anywhere from 24 hours to several days to truly clear. But the people thinking it has gone through will go ahead and fulfill the 'buyer's' wishes to have the rest of the money sent back to them and later get burned with no money and a bad check fee. There are some other variations too. The scams were started out of Nigeria in the 80's. The giveaway is that a United States bank check arrives from an International address.
"The number "419" refers to the article of the Nigerian Criminal Code (part of Chapter 38: "Obtaining Property by false pretences; Cheating") dealing with fraud. The American Dialect Society has traced the term "419 fraud" back to 1992" - wikipedia.
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05-13-2008, 07:05 AM
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05-13-2008, 07:41 AM
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You could post the scammer someones elses scam cheque. That way they could incur a bank fee for the bounced cheque!
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06-03-2008, 02:04 PM
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I work for a financial institution in the SF bay area. We has seen this type of fraud escalate in the last month with craigslist and bad checks. beware.
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11-02-2008, 07:14 PM
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Re: Classifieds 419 scam
There is only one profession that is older than scammers...........that is prostition........ I get an email from scammers like this type almost weekly, I block that email using Outlook, but they just change a different tune......hoping that somebody is dumb enough to bite. Never send money that can't be reversed....use credit card or Paypal.......at least you can save some headaches.
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