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    Cool First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Armed with the brilliant advice that was so generously provided on this forum, I went on my first track day yesterday. It was an immensely enjoyable experience that I am keen to repeat.

    I discovered the following

    1. There is a lot to learn.

    Reading about racing lines and load transfer is one thing and putting that knowledge into practice is something else. Having the theoretical background made me realise the potential for improvement and more importantly more enjoyment when these skills are gained and mastered.

    2. The 718 Boxster handling is akin to sorcery

    Even with my inexperience, I was able to take corners faster and ultimately lap faster than more powerful cars (M4 for example). I was amazed by how the car just turns in when you turn the wheel, where others get really flustered especially with consecutive opposite turns. I am sure its all the car's magical handling. Now I see what people mean by balance and rotation!

    3. The limits of the 718 chassis cannot even be approached on the public road at sane speeds.

    Following on from point 2 above, I realised just how much more these cars can do. I thought I was making the most of the car's ability during "spirited drives". But I have come to realise that there is a whole new dimension to what this chassis can do. I haven't even got to the level where I can switch off PSM and exploit the chassis to its fullest!!

    4. Things can go wrong very quickly on the track.

    I am very grateful to all those who stressed the point of being safe and not to push beyond one's limits. Of course, it seems obvious but in the heat of the moment, one can push hard only to find themselves in a bad situation that they cannot themselves out of. I kept that advice in my head the whole time, and on the last session of the day, there was a red flag. We later found out that a participant ran into a wall and trashed his car. Thankfully he wasn't hurt.

    5. Driving a Porsche on track is HUGE fun!!

    Saved the best for last! I had such a blast. There aren't many things that I have done before that compare. This experience made me more determined to come back, next time hopefully with an instructor.

    Thanks, everyone and sorry for the long post.

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Welcome to the addiction!

    Quote Originally Posted by A1reader View Post
    I haven't even got to the level where I can switch off PSM and exploit the chassis to its fullest!!

    4. Things can go wrong very quickly on the track.
    These 2 are related. Do NOT turn PSM off. The tiny gain is not worth the potential ultimate price. There was a recent thread where someone totaled their GT4. He had PSM off. There was a very good chance PSM could have prevented his mishap.

    Have fun safely. There's plenty to be had with PSM on.

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    It took a bit of digging to find the thread, but here it is: https://www.planet-9.com/automotive-o...milwaukee.html

    At instructor's school, they taught us to insist that novices leave PSM on.

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Quote Originally Posted by husker boxster View Post
    Welcome to the addiction!



    These 2 are related. Do NOT turn PSM off. The tiny gain is not worth the potential ultimate price. There was a recent thread where someone totaled their GT4. He had PSM off. There was a very good chance PSM could have prevented his mishap.

    Have fun safely. There's plenty to be had with PSM on.
    Thanks for this.
    I have NO PLANS of going anywhere near that PSM button! The car control needed to go fast without PSM is a skill that I do not posses (yet). I don’t think PSM is too intrusive anyway, the more I pushed the car in corners the more progressively it allowed a bit of slip before the orange line got flashed but in reality it didn’t flash all that much. I’m very happy keeping PSM on.

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Enjoyed your post.

    I track a lot, though yesterday on a new course wasn't my best day. Consequently I automatically hit the Sport+ setting as soon as I get in the car, even in town. But Porsche is smart enough to keep some stability assistance in the background and I don't think you can defeat it. This saved my butt last month. On a really technical track I was leading a new GT3 (We were essentially racing, I guess) at the limits of my competence, when I pushed too hard into a corner. In the paddock, my wife heard Track Control's radio chatter, "The Cayman spun." True, but only for a fraction of a second: The hidden nannies snapped the car into place so quickly that the GT3 barely gained on me. Thank you, Porsche.

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Hopefully you took some videos of your adventure. Watch them as you'll learn a lot. Then be ready to make improvements the next time you're on the track. Video tutelage is the fastest way to learn, as it shows you what's going on vs what you think you're doing.

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    I am glad you had so much fun. About nannies ... Keep them on. And do not use them to save you, but to teach you. Every time you hit a corner and orange thingy flashes, make a commitment to yourself to execute every input smoother while keeping the same speed through the corner the next time you hit that corner. Rinse and repeat until orange thingy stops flashing. Then move onto the next corner where they flash at you. If you do get an instructor, they will for sure insist that you keep smooth inputs anyway.

    Question : cumulatively, how long were you on the track (example : 3 hours over two days)? After it all ended, how did your body feel?


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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    The only place where it makes sense for a novice driver to turn-off PSM is on a skid pad, since the idea is to understand what happens to the car when under-steering or over-steering and how to control it. Even then it is arguable, since the car will behave differently than on the track (with PSM on).
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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Quote Originally Posted by CinciOH View Post
    Question : cumulatively, how long were you on the track (example : 3 hours over two days)? After it all ended, how did your body feel?
    Thanks for the great tips. I was trying to keep my inputs as smooth aspossible, but I think it takes quite a bit of practice to become properly smooth with timing and amount of input. I was on the track for 90 minutes over 3 sessions in 1 day. I felt OK at the time, but I had some sore neck and upper back muscles for the following couple of days! I didn't see that coming...

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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Were you on Losail?? Incredible if that was your first track day!

    Check with the Porsche Club of Qatar for instructed track days - they should be very welcoming of new drivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by toma nova View Post
    Were you on Losail?? Incredible if that was your first track day!

    Check with the Porsche Club of Qatar for instructed track days - they should be very welcoming of new drivers.
    Yup. Losail International Circuit. It was a blast. I am a PCQ member and I went there with a group of members, but they had nothing on instructed days. I’m trying to sort out a personal instructor for the next track day on November 10.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A1reader View Post
    I felt OK at the time, but I had some sore neck and upper back muscles for the following couple of days! I didn't see that coming...
    Yeah, it can be exhausting. Especially in high heat and humidity. People underestimate it. 3 sessions for 30 minutes each is about right for the first time on track, IMO. It feels quite a bit worse after you did the same thing Sat and Sun. Glad you liked it and are trying to get some instruction. Keep up the good work!


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    Re: First track day in a 718 Boxster S

    Quote Originally Posted by olegd View Post
    The only place where it makes sense for a novice driver to turn-off PSM is on a skid pad, since the idea is to understand what happens to the car when under-steering or over-steering and how to control it. Even then it is arguable, since the car will behave differently than on the track (with PSM on).
    I can attest to that. We had access to a skid pad at Willow, and ran circles with PSM on and was able to hold a nice drift, car pretty neutral. Then tried the same with PSM off. Got into a nice little drift, as before, and before I could correct I was spinning backwards. Happened very fast.
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