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    Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    First time poster. I've been researching and looking at used Caymans for several weeks now. In fact, several posts I've read on this forum have been very helpful. However, I'm now at a crossroads with three vehicles I've found.

    The first is a 2011 Cayman S (2011 Porsche Cayman S w/Sport Chrono Plus Package, Navigation, Sport Exhaust & Limited Slip Differential | Eau Claire, Wisconsin | Capital Motor Company) with PDK, Sport Chrono Plus, PASM, and LSD.

    The second vehicle is a 2012 Cayman base with PDK (https://stlouis.porschedealer.com/ce...43299/info.php).

    The last vehicle is a 2014 Cayman base with PDK (https://hennessyporsche.com/inventor...etallic+635825).

    I'm planning to use whichever vehicle I purchase as my daily driver only; I won't track it. I'm just curious on your thoughts on these, the pros and cons, and whether or not these are good values. I'm not really looking at pure performance since I won't be tracking the car, but the S is extremely appealing with those options. And do I go with a low mileage base (the '12) over the '11 S or newer 981? Thanks in advance for any input!

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    I would go for the newest car that I could afford.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    I would be cautious with the 11CS with the LSD - very few people spec that and I'm curious if it was ordered that way for the track. PTV is a little more common (I think) but when I was looking last December, almost all the 981s had neither. Not a Porsche dealer so it was probably wholesaled at some point.

    The 2012 looks nice being local to that dealer and one owner, but it's only a few grand less than the 981.

    For a daily driver, I'd go with the 14 base with PDK. You'll be happy with the performance and you can still autocross or DE it. Plus it's CPO (important for my first Porsche), great seats, nice steering wheel, and 19" wheels. Miles are fine, get the dealer to complete the 30k service for you. Plus, it's close to you! Check the CarFax to see how many owners / where it came from (snow and ice?).

    Tint those windows then post some pics!

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    The well-optioned '11 S is a lot more car than either the 987.2 base or the 981 base. If you're just cruising around you might not miss the extra power of the S, or that the S has PSE and Sport Chrono. But if you want something that will cruise comfortably AND get snarly on demand with the press of the Sport and PSE buttons, the S is the better tool. IMO.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Thanks again for the replies. The options on the '11 S made me think that it was probably a track car, and I would have definitely wanted to see an over rev report on it. With this being my first Porsche, a CPO is probably a smart way to go. I had planned to budget up to $45k, and the '14 base certainly falls into the budget. Along the lines of price, one other question I have is what's a fair price to begin negotiations? 5% of the asking price? 10%?

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by TNTide View Post
    Thanks again for the replies. The options on the '11 S made me think that it was probably a track car, and I would have definitely wanted to see an over rev report on it. With this being my first Porsche, a CPO is probably a smart way to go. I had planned to budget up to $45k, and the '14 base certainly falls into the budget. Along the lines of price, one other question I have is what's a fair price to begin negotiations? 5% of the asking price? 10%?
    Make sure to cross check the asking price against the rest of the market. Compare to other listings in and out of your general area with some of the options and figure out a value. Get a sense of what the car is worth to YOU before starting negotiations. You can also research the value of options on the used market, what it would cost to have someone install them if they are missing, etc. It might be worth it to drop into the 981 Cayman configurator and spec up your perfect S and Base before Porsche pulls the page down. Print those out with prices so that you have a reference to work from for your research.

    Dont rush into this. Just because the car is there, fits your budget, and seems in reasonable shape is a bad reason to pull the trigger. You can afford to wait until you know for sure whether or not you want an S or a base. I had a similar issue choosing S or GTS for my new custom order and part of me regrets getting the S just because it was available sooner and I thought the front looked better and would scrape less for daily use. I was burned out on car shopping after buying a new M3 Euro Delivery and winding up not happy in the end. Now I will probably always wonder "what if", even though I am very happy with the S and all the options are perfect for my taste. (My S is configured with all the GTS performance options and MSRP was actually slightly higher; only savings was that my dealer probably wouldn't have given me much off MSRP for the GTS. I got 4.5% on the S when new. Dunno if that data will help you.)
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by TNTide View Post
    Thanks again for the replies. The options on the '11 S made me think that it was probably a track car, and I would have definitely wanted to see an over rev report on it. With this being my first Porsche, a CPO is probably a smart way to go. I had planned to budget up to $45k, and the '14 base certainly falls into the budget. Along the lines of price, one other question I have is what's a fair price to begin negotiations? 5% of the asking price? 10%?
    Nothing about that '11 CS says track car to me...I have PASM, Sport Chrono, LSD, the black Boxster Sypder wheels and a Sport Design wheel with proper paddles, and it's never been to the track. One of the telltales to me that it's a street car is the stock 18" Cayman wheels: track cars almost always have upgraded OEM or aftermarket wheels. Also, with PDK there is little need to be concerned about over-revs. One thing you might want to consider is depreciation, the '11 CS is a MUCH rarer car than the 981 base, and is going to hold its value better. There were very few '11 and '12 Cayman Ss, and they are jewels in the 987.2 market. That particular CS is very well equipped.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    The '11 is optioned just like I would if I could choose again.

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Previous two posts nailed it, imho. And not just because I have one. As stated, it's an incredibly nicely spec'd 987.2, right down to those 19" Carrera Classic wheels. LOVE them. That car needs a nice home.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch View Post
    Previous two posts nailed it, imho. And not just because I have one. As stated, it's an incredibly nicely spec'd 987.2, right down to those 19" Carrera Classic wheels. LOVE them. That car needs a nice home.
    I stand corrected...at first glance I thought those were standard-issue 18" Cayman wheels, but now see they are the 19" Classics. You're right...assuming the car looks as good in person as in the pictures, and the PPI checks out, this is a nice 987.2 in need of a good home.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    I'd suggest you sit in a 987 and 981. If you are a larger person, the interior room is quite different as is ease of entry. 14 way seats are very nice, too.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by gcurnew View Post
    I stand corrected...at first glance I thought those were standard-issue 18" Cayman wheels, but now see they are the 19" Classics. You're right...assuming the car looks as good in person as in the pictures, and the PPI checks out, this is a nice 987.2 in need of a good home.
    I love the way the car looks and the specs, but I dug a little deeper and found a Carfax report on it with two accidents. Carfax.com - page not found
    I think I'd be a little more comfortable with a CPO and a clean record.

    As far as interior room, I'm blessed with a high metabolism, so that's not a huge deal. Still, I would like to sit in and drive both the 987 and 981 to get a feel for what I'd prefer, but I don't know anyone around or close to Nashville with a 987.

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by TNTide View Post
    I love the way the car looks and the specs, but I dug a little deeper and found a Carfax report on it with two accidents. Carfax.com I think I'd be a little more comfortable with a CPO and a clean record.
    Totally understand. Best of luck in your continued hunt!
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Test drive before you eagerly decide you want one at all. I personally think CPO warranty is worth pursuing. The best part of 987 over 981 is the steering; it is great fun like a real go-kart.
    May not be so realistic but I would advise trying a manual if you find your best option is a base model.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    CPO. Test drive each and see which one feels like home.

    There are reasons to get each of these cars but accident history and service history would be at the top of my list for your use. A CPO car is typically excellent in every way.
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    My MY10 Cayman S is now at 90k mi. Not a hint of trouble and is my DD. I do +/- 25K miles/year. It is CPO. Whatever you decide, CPO is necessary.

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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    I'm in a similar decision process, but for a Boxster.

    I would let options, color and condition (in person, and especially interior) decide. I have good confidence that these things don't fall apart easily. But my pet options really matter. I am a sucker for full leather and I don't like non-GT silver on black plastic interior. Other people have other pet options they want, and I think Porsche is a good car vendor where it is reasonable to get what you want without worrying too much about age and miles, even warranty if you get enough money back from not having it.

    I want my Boxster to be something I feel really at home in. (for sure I'll spend a lot of time in there)
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Bumping this thread up to let you all know I finally purchased my first Porsche! I ultimately decided on a 2011 Cayman S. After driving it, I could instantly feel a big difference in power versus the base model, and I never wanted to wonder what it would be like to have that extra power when I need it. I won't need it very often in my daily driving, but it will be nice to know I can unleash the beast when needed.

    It was being offered as a CPO by Porsche of the Main Lineicon outside of Philadelphia, but I actually ended up negotiating a lower price for it to be non-CPO version; hope it doesn't bite me in the butt. Still, the vehicle had been through the CPO process, including all service work completed and the spark plugs had even been replaced a couple of months ago by the previous owner. The vehicle only had about 9800 miles on it and was in mint condition inside and out. The salesperson I dealt with was Tim Grape who was outstanding. I can't recommend working with him strongly enough, even if you don't actually end up buying a car from him.

    I flew to Philly last Friday (7/15) and drove the car 12 1/2 hours back to Nashville the same day. I had an absolute blast and it will be a memory that lasts a lifetime. Anyway, I've attached some images of my new Cayman (pre-wash, sorry). The only change I'll be making is to get the windows tinted later this week. Not that it will need any work anytime soon (knock on wood), I'm looking forward to doing most of the maintenance myself and learning more about the vehicle. This forum will continue to be a big resource when it comes time to do DIY work. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that provided comments and feedback!
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    Re: Thoughts on Used 987.2 S vs. 987.2 Base vs. 981 Base

    Quote Originally Posted by TNTide View Post
    Bumping this thread up to let you all know I finally purchased my first Porsche! I ultimately decided on a 2011 Cayman S. After driving it, I could instantly feel a big difference in power versus the base model, and I never wanted to wonder what it would be like to have that extra power when I need it. I won't need it very often in my daily driving, but it will be nice to know I can unleash the beast when needed.

    It was being offered as a CPO by Porsche of the Main Lineicon outside of Philadelphia, but I actually ended up negotiating a lower price for it to be non-CPO version; hope it doesn't bite me in the butt. Still, the vehicle had been through the CPO process, including all service work completed and the spark plugs had even been replaced a couple of months ago by the previous owner. The vehicle only had about 9800 miles on it and was in mint condition inside and out. The salesperson I dealt with was Tim Grape who was outstanding. I can't recommend working with him strongly enough, even if you don't actually end up buying a car from him.

    I flew to Philly last Friday (7/15) and drove the car 12 1/2 hours back to Nashville the same day. I had an absolute blast and it will be a memory that lasts a lifetime. Anyway, I've attached some images of my new Cayman (pre-wash, sorry). The only change I'll be making is to get the windows tinted later this week. Not that it will need any work anytime soon (knock on wood), I'm looking forward to doing most of the maintenance myself and learning more about the vehicle. This forum will continue to be a big resource when it comes time to do DIY work. I just wanted to say thanks to everyone that provided comments and feedback!
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    Hey TNTide, how’s that 2011 Cayman S working out?

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