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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by gatornapper View Post
    I found a way to kill my strong desire for a GTS. I purchased Softronics ECU upgrade boosting my '11 987.2 S to over 355hp - and I've got a whole new car.

    Performance-wise, everything is new, different, better. Torque, Sport Plus shifting is even faster/harder, throttle-response incredible, even in Standard mode.

    I am so loving my new S that I've had for 6 years that my longing for a GTS is GONE!

    And all for $995.00.

    GN
    All you purchased was the ECU tune and that provided such a big difference? No other upgrades- exhaust, Plenum, headers? I’ll check it out.


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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by rocketship View Post
    Team,

    I have the opportunity to purchase a 2015 GTS with 5K on the clock, and trade in my 2010 CS with 49K on the clock. I bought my car a year ago and love it, no problems except an as of yet undiagnosed front suspension clunk. The trade would cost me about $40K (all in after tax title and fees). When I bought mine I was planning to own for 10 years and add 2K miles per year. With the GTS, it would be the same plan (although I'm certain I'll continue to reevaluate selling/trading on an annual basis)

    My thoughts are are outlined below:

    Pros- Newer car, less headaches down the road, relatively small annual depreciation assuming I put about 2K miles on it per year and don't track it... It's a GTS!

    Cons- $40K downstroke, my CS is great and I love it, and the CS is relatively far down the depreciation curve

    Anyone been in a similar situation and pulled the trigger? Is the GTS worth a $40K exchange?

    Oh, and the other big thing... I have to get the ok from my wife. Hah!

    Thanks,
    JP
    I made precisely the move you describe, but for a new 2015 CGTS. IMO, $70k is too much even for a low mileage CGTS. The CGTS is a better car, but I am not sure the difference is worth the payout.


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    Interesting thread. I'm in a 987.1S for just a few months, but I keep doing exactly what brought me to this point, which is shopping online for even better cars. And I hit the same conclusion, that not much is worth it now. A perfect spec 987.2S, 997S? I am not convinced. 70k GTS is somehow ridiculous. Is there something 2 times better than the 987 S for not 3 times more money?
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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    Its probably too late to be of any use to the original poster, as you've already taken a decision, but I'm going to give you my opinion anyway. I have a 2003 911 C4S (Manual) and a Boxster 987.2 Black Edition (PDK, no PASM) and in 2016 I bought a 2014 Cayman GTS (PDK). My posts are somewhere in this forum but they were basically saying that I never synched with the GTS. In spite of developing 20 bhp more than the Boxster, it felt slower because of the long gear ratios. I did not like the feel of the steering, either and worst of all for me, I hated the PASM suspension- it felt unnatural and did not inspire confidence. I installed the VSC suspension module to try to improve things, but I wasn't satisfied. I finally sold it after two years. The only positive thing was that I got almost the same amount that I had paid when I bought it. It is true that there are very few GTS for sale.

    A couple months ago, I finally got the Cayman that I wanted- it's a late 2011 Black Edition (PDK, no PASM), with only 10,000 miles on the odometer. I've now done about 2,000 miles and in my view, it is THE Cayman to have. Instant throttle response, direct steering feel and firm linear suspension.

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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    I have a 2010 CS with PDK, I think 2009 2012 are my favorite.

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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    Well said!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocketship View Post
    Sometimes we just need to be reminded of how great the things are that we have!
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    Team,

    I took my CS into my local independent (who has worked on the car before) to get some new tires, check the steering fluid, and find the source of the previously undiagnosed front suspension clunk. The LCAs were the culprit of the clunks. A few front suspension tweaks, some new tires, and a little steering fluid (level was low, but no leaks) and BOOM. The car is better than ever.

    Thanks again to the posters. More in love with my CS than ever before. Coming up on 51K miles after some long weekend road trips and looking to do more this fall!

    Cheers,

    JP

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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    You trying to do it as a financial analysis for some kind of investment. Don't fool yourself. It's isn't rational thing. From logical pow if you current car moves and trouble free - keep riding it until it dies... Which will probably be in 20 years...

    But, from enjoing-the-life pow - if you can afford it and want it - do it. 2015 GTS is a much more fun car than 2010 CS for sure!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocketship View Post
    Team,

    I have the opportunity to purchase a 2015 GTS with 5K on the clock, and trade in my 2010 CS with 49K on the clock. I bought my car a year ago and love it, no problems except an as of yet undiagnosed front suspension clunk. The trade would cost me about $40K (all in after tax title and fees). When I bought mine I was planning to own for 10 years and add 2K miles per year. With the GTS, it would be the same plan (although I'm certain I'll continue to reevaluate selling/trading on an annual basis)

    My thoughts are are outlined below:

    Pros- Newer car, less headaches down the road, relatively small annual depreciation assuming I put about 2K miles on it per year and don't track it... It's a GTS!

    Cons- $40K downstroke, my CS is great and I love it, and the CS is relatively far down the depreciation curve

    Anyone been in a similar situation and pulled the trigger? Is the GTS worth a $40K exchange?

    Oh, and the other big thing... I have to get the ok from my wife. Hah!

    Thanks,
    JP
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Design View Post
    You trying to do it as a financial analysis for some kind of investment. Don't fool yourself. It's isn't rational thing. From logical pow if you current car moves and trouble free - keep riding it until it dies... Which will probably be in 20 years...

    But, from enjoing-the-life pow - if you can afford it and want it - do it. 2015 GTS is a much more fun car than 2010 CS for sure!

    Quote Originally Posted by rocketship View Post
    Team,

    I have the opportunity to purchase a 2015 GTS with 5K on the clock, and trade in my 2010 CS with 49K on the clock. I bought my car a year ago and love it, no problems except an as of yet undiagnosed front suspension clunk. The trade would cost me about $40K (all in after tax title and fees). When I bought mine I was planning to own for 10 years and add 2K miles per year. With the GTS, it would be the same plan (although I'm certain I'll continue to reevaluate selling/trading on an annual basis)

    My thoughts are are outlined below:

    Pros- Newer car, less headaches down the road, relatively small annual depreciation assuming I put about 2K miles on it per year and don't track it... It's a GTS!

    Cons- $40K downstroke, my CS is great and I love it, and the CS is relatively far down the depreciation curve

    Anyone been in a similar situation and pulled the trigger? Is the GTS worth a $40K exchange?

    Oh, and the other big thing... I have to get the ok from my wife. Hah!

    Thanks,
    JP
    I agree with T-Design, applying financial analysis to the car buying equation rarely works to make a decision of this kind, no weighting is given to the emotional side, you already made it worse by finding the replacement car!

    Why can I be so sure, because I have tried to make this rationalization more than a few times now, IMHO all that you are doing now is trying to convince yourself or others that it is a good idea...

    If your passion has shifted to the new ride and financially you are able to make it work without negatively affecting your life, then proceed with the change, but only if you accept that it is a want not a need!
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    Re: Upgrade from 2010 CS to 2015 GTS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Westcoaster View Post
    I agree with T-Design, applying financial analysis to the car buying equation rarely works to make a decision of this kind, no weighting is given to the emotional side, you already made it worse by finding the replacement car!

    Why can I be so sure, because I have tried to make this rationalization more than a few times now, IMHO all that you are doing now is trying to convince yourself or others that it is a good idea...

    If your passion has shifted to the new ride and financially you are able to make it work without negatively affecting your life, then proceed with the change, but only if you accept that it is a want not a need!
    I agree completely! When the car I’m driving is not the car I want to be driving, reminding myself how much money I am saving rarely produces good cheer. If you can afford it, get the car you want now, instead of waiting till you can justify it with a pencil. That pencil will never make you happy for a minute.


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