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    Audi RS7

    From C&D. 2017 Audi RS7 Performance Test | Review | Car and Driver

    These sorts of high hp, heavy cars with stiff suspensions puzzle me a little. Sure the fierce acceleration is nice but then what else? You can't go that fast on US highways that are mostly populated by 4-cylinder Hondas and Toyotas and the ubiquitous pickups. They sure can't be comfortable for passengers with the harsh ride even though they have 4 seats. And too big and heavy for back roads to have any fun like Porsche's sports cars. This car, the A7, S6, M cars, some of the AMG offerings etc. And would you want to get into a drag race with these types of cars. I think not.

    Don't know where the line is for a comfortable and fun to drive fast car with 4 seats. How much power does one need?
    Even though I would never buy one, maybe something like an A4, 328 or the bigger A6 or 5 series or E class seem more reasonable for day to day use. Of if you want more luxury, the higher end cars.
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    Agreed. I think that these cars are for well-off people that just want to have a ridiculous amount of power and need 4 seats. I can't imagine that anyone contemplating one of these types of car have ever experienced flinging a light, well-balanced sportscar into a corner and then blasting out of it in perfect control. It's the biggest thrill in driving, especially accompanied by a magnificent engine singing its song of joy. (I went for a fun drive today).
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    Yup! Fun is in the corners with a light, well-balanced sports car. Today was glorious day for a long drive top down. My car never fails to entertain which is what Porsche seems to understand very, very well.
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    Comfort, space, and a big torque shove when you have the chance to put your foot down for 3 or 4 seconds on the highway. That is what most people want, and what most people actually use, so them weighing near 5000lbs is irrelevant. That's why the "sport sedan" segment started completely blowing up about 15-20 years ago, and continues to push units out the door so easily. They're largely used like muscle cars with very nice, comfy interiors. It's also why crossovers/SUVs like the SQ5, X5M, X6M, ML63, Range Rover SVR, etc. are being made -- it's the same idea in a crossover, so the manufacturers know they will sell (and boy do they ever).

    It's also why people like their Teslas. Massive torque shove at normal speeds. Which makes an even bigger impression if they previously only had rather normal vehicles. Which does happen. I knew a guy who wanted a Model S because he's a tech enthusiast, and because it's green. The most powerful thing he previously owned was a 4-cylinder Mazda 6. To say a P85 D has a bit more torque is understatement of the year.

    It's also a segment where FI is desired, not loathed. A guy I used to autocross with now has a 550i (because still had to have a BMW with the kid). He used to be a hardcore autocrosser, but he's succumbed to easy torque shove. He'll never go back to a smaller, lightweight anything. He's joined the swelling ranks of people who just want to stomp the gas pedal for 4 seconds on the highway.

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    Yup! Fun is in the corners with a light, well-balanced sports car. Today was glorious day for a long drive top down. My car never fails to entertain which is what Porsche seems to understand very, very well.
    I was out this morning (getting on Sawyer Highway at 4:30AM) in NH as well. Good drive, but had to cut it short on the last leg (the Kanc). The west side (near Loon) was 8F colder than the east side (leaving Conway), so I figured the melting snowpack was equally likely to be ice and backed off. Sure enough, I ended up having to catch the car about 3 times in 30 seconds which confirmed my suspicion that fun time was over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anand View Post
    From C&D. 2017 Audi RS7 Performance Test | Review | Car and Driver

    These sorts of high hp, heavy cars with stiff suspensions puzzle me a little. Sure the fierce acceleration is nice but then what else? You can't go that fast on US highways that are mostly populated by 4-cylinder Hondas and Toyotas and the ubiquitous pickups. They sure can't be comfortable for passengers with the harsh ride even though they have 4 seats. And too big and heavy for back roads to have any fun like Porsche's sports cars. This car, the A7, S6, M cars, some of the AMG offerings etc. And would you want to get into a drag race with these types of cars. I think not.

    Don't know where the line is for a comfortable and fun to drive fast car with 4 seats. How much power does one need?
    Even though I would never buy one, maybe something like an A4, 328 or the bigger A6 or 5 series or E class seem more reasonable for day to day use. Of if you want more luxury, the higher end cars.
    I needed a new mid-sized car and went with the A7. Like you I couldn't see the benefit of the S7 or RS7 in the US, but I also hate SUVs. I love station wagons but you can't sell them to anyone. However, the back seat in the A7 folds down, the package tray comes out and you basically have a wagon that looks great.
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    I forgot to mention that for a big, heavy car it is surprisingly agile. I wouldn't track it but in normal driving, even when pushed a bit, it has been extremely neutral. Considering the AWD and where the engine is I did not expect this. I previously had an Acura RL with SH-AWD and I could easily get it to push in slightly sharp curves. The Audi somehow doesn't do this. It remains to be seen whether it will be as good in the snow. Last winter didn't provide much.

    As for an Audi-4, MB-C or BMW-3, why? They don't have all that much more room than a sports car and they tend to handle like their larger brethren. Okay, maybe an M3. You almost have to go for a 6/7, E or 5. How about a Panamera!
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    A smaller lookalike to the RS7 iis the BMW 440i Grand Coupe. Add the Power Package and you've got 355 hp in a small-ish, nimble car that's fun anywhere.

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    Cars like the Audi 7, BMW 7 and Panamera are brilliant tools for long-distance highway travel. With adaptive suspensions, they belie their weight and size up to about 6/10ths; with the top-spec engines, they are rocket sleds. Even though I'm a fan of light, small 2-seaters, if Audi ever decided to sell an RS4 Avant in Canada, I'd be at the dealer putting down a deposit the next day. It's just about the perfect all-weather, all-conditions vehicle, in my view.
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    I'm not up to the R versions but I do have an S4. Love it for highway tips with the wife between LA and AZ. Plenty of power, great acceleration and milage. Cornering not so much. The Audi 4 wheel drive, even with the vectoring differential, is not match for a rear wheel drive car. And, the steering is numb at best!

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