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    Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Just bought my first Porsche ever (2007 Cayman S) last week and am in love, but already developing what seems to be the standard neuroticism that goes along with owning such a beautiful car

    I'm looking for advice re: two different car covers. I think I've narrowed it down to the Weathershield HP or Covercraft NOAH. It seems like they may be similar in a lot of respects, but the climate here (Nova Scotia, Canada) is pretty rough over the winter with a LOT of wind, rain, and intermittent snow/ice. I'm nervous about scratching the black paint given everything I've read here and elsewhere re: car covers, but I have no garage and looked into the "pop-up garages" but am near certain it would blow away in one of our wind storms. I know it should go under the cover clean, so I'm also somewhat nervous that if I took it out for a drive on a warmer day that going back under the cover slightly dirty might make for a scratch-fest underneath.

    Has anyone tried both covers to compare, especially in a rough climate (northeast/midatlantic/canada)? Maybe others have advice re: storage as well (other than waxing, which I will be sure to do...) Any help would be appreciated - thanks!

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    No experience with the NOAH but I've used a WeatherShield (non-HP) for the last 4 years and I've been amazed that the material hasn't fallen apart given the snow/ice/sun/heat we've seen with the weather in NYC over this time.

    We've set records with the heaviest snowfall, rain, wind, lowest and highest temps all within this timeframe.

    With regard to the wind, the elastic band under the cover will loosen over time and the single cable lockdown loop under the center of the cover will not be enough to keep the front or rear of the cover attached to the car even in the relatively gentle winds we get in NYC during the winter. I came home one day to the sight of the front portion completely off and slapping the hood in the wind.

    So now I have some additional tie downs with bungee cords across the front and rear of the car to keep the cover in place. After 3 years, the elastic has completely lost it's strength and the three tie downs are holding the cover in place. The material itself has held up great however although some of the threads in the seams are starting to disintegrate.

    Having a former seamstress in the family came in handy to reinforce some of the threads in the problem areas.

    I do expect to have to replace this cover in a few years however, nothing lasts forever when exposed to the elements this long but I think I will get my money's worth after 6+ years with it.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Regarding scratching, I've been religious about cleaning the car after every single drive before I put the cover back on. My previous car was a black Audi and I didn't do this so it was scratch city!

    Sometimes I just use detailing fluid and a microfiber towel to wipe the car down if my drive is short and on clean roads. If I drive anywhere over 20 miles, it'll need a wash.

    The problem areas are the rear bumper area where the airflow deposits the most dirt. If you're not washing the car and just want to wipe it down before putting the cover on, pay particular attention to this area and all around the front fenders, doors and roof where the majority weight of the cover will be.

    On my black Audi, I ended up with a nice hazy "ring" around the equator of the whole car where the weight of the cover plus dirt caused scratches on the clearcoat.

    On a side note, I only drive the Cayman once a week at most. If this car is going to be a daily driver, I'd think long and hard before throwing a cover on it. Cleaning it constantly to avoid scratches becomes a huge chore...
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Thanks for the great info. It's the "hazy ring" I'm most worried about. I do intend to drive it as much as possible over the winter, and just ordered a set of Conti ExtremeContact DWS's to put on to replace old PS2icon's. My fear in not covering is the weather here is unpredictable (probably more so up here than NY State, although the winters are in the same range) so it can go from sunny/warm one day in January to rain/snow/ice buildup very quickly making me wonder what's safer - risk scratches from the cover, or risk exposure to the elements (esp the layers of ice that can build up after it snows, rains, then re-freezes). Washing in a Canadian February is just plain unpractical (although I've heard about no-rinse washes? Never tried one though...)

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I've used both of those covers on cars sitting under car ports, plus a few Evolution types in earlier years. Both very good covers for nasty weather. The main differences that I noticed are related to the extra thickness of the NOAH. Specifically, the NOAH provides somewhat better ding protection and somewhat better heat insulation in warm/sunny weather. The Weathershield is thinner and lighter, so folds into a significantly smaller size for storage or transporting.

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    5+ years with Noah

    from Cal Car Covers in area where snow and ice was common mixed with a few nice days. I'd push snow off the cover with a push broom (probably up to 10 inches) and crack maybe 3/4 of an inch of ice on the cover till it slid off on a regular basis to take the car out for the nice day before the ice or snow had melted but once the streets were plowed. Mine was in fine shape 6+ years later when I sold the car. I never experienced really high winds but there were occasional drifts over the car.

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Yup, there is a Cayman underneath there somewhere!

    Yup, there is a Cayman underneath there somewhere!

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Sometimes if the wind is right, the snow will just slide off the Weathershield cover. Here is a photo from another storm we hand this winter.

    Sometimes if the wind is right, the snow will just slide off the Weathershield cover.  Here is a photo from another storm we hand this winter.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    This seems to be the consensus across the numerous website reviews I've read - that either the NOAH or Weathershield (HP or HD) seem to equally do the job. It's good to see it can handle ice (thanks Mike) and extreme snow drifts (thanks Pete) - this is pretty much what I'm trying to brace myself for in about 4-5 months. Would you have the battery tender/charger running under all that snow and the cover?

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Yup, battery tended goes under the doorsill into the car. You may have noticed the traffic cones under the car. I use them with foam blocks to wedge against the front and rear of the cover from blowing up in the wind.

    When the elastic goes, it goes!
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    Hi again - still stuck on days and feel like I'm obsessively worried about my first Canadian winter with the Cayman exposed to the elements. Pete - you mentioned you had a weathershield but you said ("non-HP") - can you tell me which you have? Looking at your other posts and how much you care about your car(s), I'm going to guess you made a good choice re: covers. Can I also ask if the snow/ice/rain combo ever freezes to the car itself if you try to take the cover off during the winter?
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    When I purchased my cover 4 years ago from CarCoverOnline dot com, they only had one version of the WeatherShield cover. I see that they now have an "HD" and "HP" version.

    Going by the pricing, I would have to say that my cover is the cheaper "HP" version. The material is very light and slick. It's similar material on the high end Gore-Tex alpine shell climbing jackets from Marmot or Arc'treyx. The only downside to that material is that it's so light that the wind will play havoc with it when put take it off or put it on.

    You should see me with the cover on windy days trying to get it off or on between gusts. Not an issue if you have another person helping you however.

    Light snow and water sheds very easily off this material.

    Now for freezing water. This can happen and it did to me the one time I needed to use the car and get the cover off. I had to carefully pour warm water on the frozen spots. It was an unusual event where we had a rain storm followed by freezing temps.

    You can easily brush any new snow off the cover. If you leave the snow on the cover while the sun hits it, it will melt a small amount snow that will re-freeze overnight adhering to the car. At that point you're screwed and should leave the cover alone until everything melts.

    So if you know you need the car, brush all the snow off ASAP.

    The cover material has not degraded at all over 4 years of four season exposure outdoors. The color has faded and there is an oval ring of mold around the gas cap area but who cares. It doesn't shed water as well anymore but I'm sure I can bring that back by throwing it in the washing machine with a product like NikWax which should restore it's water repellancy.

    What has degraded at the threads that hold the panels together. I can see that within a few years I would need to send it back for restitching or just get a new one. By that time I think I would've gotten my money's worth out of it.

    Hope this helps.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I honestly don't know what I'd do without this forum and my recently acquired Cayman (finally posted pics). It also ceases to amaze me how many products are out there that you guys all know about (nikiwax?! just looked it up - amazing!). Thank you - I think I will buy the Weathershield HP when I get home tonight. The HD material looks a bit tough, and I heard the NOAH is not tough enough. The weather here is so variable (especially the high winds we get) I'm just nervous about making the right choice - at the end of the day I'm hoping anything is better than just leaving it exposed. Thank you!
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    You're welcome.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I've had the NOAH in excess of 3 years now and have not seen any issues related to wear. It's seen multiple snows as Pete has had in the mid-Atlantic area and provides great protection from the sun. It's covered if not driven within 3 days as my car is a DD and have not noticed any wear. The NOAH has a tight fit and have not had to secure with any additional cords or lines. I was concerned about the feel and felt that the NOAH was softer and less likely to wear on the paint.

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I keep going back and forth on the NOAH. Some folks seem to love it. The one consistent thing I've heard (well, relatively consistent) is that it allows quite a bit of water through. Maybe I am being overly neurotic since this is my first winter with a nice car (all my previous cars have just toughed it out, but those were Jeeps, mazda's, etc) and I've never left a car to sit for any period of time before. Maybe I should clarify my priorities - my biggest concern is damage to the paint since it's a black Cayman and the paint right now looks like it's in great condition, a couple front bumper nicks aside. I'll likely (hopefully!) be pulling it on and off once in a while to drive it when it warms up, but I've read so many times that putting it away dirty will scratch everything up when the cover goes back on (and outside washing is impractical in February here, but I've never tried these new "waterless wash" products I've seen recently and am unsure which, if any, is safe for paint). Aside from baseline anxiety, one reason I'm so concerned is we frequently get seriously windy days here where I can just picture this thing flapping around violently all over my car and that scares the heck out of me. I'm least concerned about the sun - I'd kill for a few more sunny days around here.

    SO, I'm left deciding - thinner cover that may let in more water like the NOAH (and potentially freeze to the car like Pete mentioned) but be safer on the paint (like you mentioned MrCabDrvr) or something heavier that might scuff up paint in a windstorm but sounds stronger and more resistant (like a Covercraft HP/HD) to the snow/ice/rain/snow/ice mix we can sometimes get here along the coast as I'm unsure if that would have a negative impact on the paint? If I'm safe either way I'd rather spend less on the NOAH, but I don't want to cheap out on something that could make a big difference come next spring when the cover comes off for good.

    This car is making me (more) neurotic.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    The Covercraft HP is not a thick material. In fact, if it was any thinner, I wouldn't call it an outdoor cover! No experience with NOAH however.

    The good thing is you still have some time before winter hits. I would give a call to either a cover reseller or directly to Covercraft and ask for some sample fabric patches be sent over to you.

    This will help greatly in judging the thickness of the material.
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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I realize this is an old thread but I figured I would chime in with new info.
    i have just received the weathercraft HP and altough the material seems soft enough, i am concerned about the course thread used in the seams. Taking my cue from what I saw on some other boards regarding similar concerns, I contacted Covercraft. The customer service agent agreed that the seams "may" abrade the paint with movement of the cover. They agreed if I send back the cover that they would sew flannel in the seams. This has a $25.00 charge they would waive if I paid the shipping charges to return it. Well, that did not go over well cosidering they list this as BEST in their soft touch cover ratings. After a 90 second tirade; they also agreed to send me a fedex label to return at their cost. I will update this thread with the results when I receive the finished product...

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    Re: Car Covers - NOAH vs. WeatherShield HP

    I received my Weathershield HP (plus) cover back today.
    After our coversation about the possibility of the cover abrading the paint and my subsequent meltdown; they opted to sew a lining in the entire cover rather than just flannel in the seams. The inside is now as soft as it can possibly be. No abrasive thread whatsoever. I only wish I had pajama's to sleep in as soft as this cover. It added very little bulk either. One thing I can say is that after I let them know that I would not put anything on my car that even had the slightest hint of microscopic scratching their customer service was spectacular. My Boxster now has a one of a kind Covercraft cover.

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