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Love the opening sequence...
1) not everyone needs rear seats all the time, for those who do, a small CUV is not the right vehicleI know this SUV is selling and selling well but I never liked it and can't get how buyers can due to the following:
1) an SUV with no useable rear seats.
2) an SUV with no big trunk
3) ugly rear
4) too low for off road (even the Cayenne is low for my needs)
5) these buyers, have they seen the new Range Rover? At the same price with similar features there's the Evoque that looks far better. And for real hardcore, there's the Sport, HSE, Vogue and Autobiography.
I'd be interested to hear from those who bought a Macan, why not RR instead.
My salesman took me for a ride in a Macan turbo to impress me. And I was blown away with its performance and reasonable price. But that's it for me. The exterior looks and functions/capabilities didn't satisfy me. But yeah, it was fast!I loved his review of the 981s when they first came out. I must have watched it a 100 times.
For the Macan, I don't see a reason to have that much HP and acceleration in a SUV. To me a SUV is a utility and passenger vehicle not a sports car. I have a 981 for that (but the Macan Turbo is faster lol) I've been a passenger in the backseat of my father-in-law's Macan and I thought the rear seats were perfectly fine. The road clearance is no big deal and the vast majority of owners will never take their car off road anyway. There is also a +40mm option for an air lift system to give it more clearance for those that want a high (and variable) ride height.
P.S. Did you notice in the video that they had the Porsche crests on the wheel pointed in the wrong direction? lol
1) an SUV with no useable rear seats.
not everyone needs rear seats all the time, for those who do, a small CUV is not the right vehicle
First, its not a SUV. It's a Crossover Utility Vehicle. As to the storage, there are other CUVs that give more space with the seats down. I consider this a weakness. Its not all that bad, but I wouldn't call it leading the class. Plenty? Meh. Maybe "ok"2) an SUV with no big trunk
for this class of vehicle, you get plenty of storage with the rear seats down
3) ugly rear
The Macan is not a SUV, it is NOT a 4 x4. Its a crossover vehicle meant for driving on gravel roads, hard sand beaches, and snow. It does what it is intended to do perfectly fine. Even then, 99% of buyers will never take it off paved roads. If you need a true 4 x 4, buy a Jeep or whatever is appropriate, but not a Macan.4) too low for off road (even the Cayenne is low for my needs)
air suspension will help, but you already know this isn't competing with real offroad capable SUVs
I don't believe there is sufficient data on the new gen, I'm just going by older data from Consumer Reports, Edmunds, JD Powers, etc... For the record, I think the RR brand is desireable and has good design. I currently own shares of Tata Motors even though I wouldn't buy a RR myself right now.PokerHobo, do you have a reliability report for the new RR?
For the record...Here is what Porsche says about the Macan target demographics:
"As for target audience, Porsche sees two main groups. The first is younger and in their 30s or 40s, but without kids. The second demographic will be empty nesters. Each will be seeking to reward themselves with something that’s a cross between a sports car and a crossover."
While I am sure they are also getting some young folks with small children, along with some cross shopping from sport sedan buyers and lower tier CUV buyers, this car makes perfect sense for empty nest baby boomers. There is a huge market, across the world, of baby boomers with money to buy something but the days of sports cars is over or they want to try Porsche but come from BMW, Audi, Lexus, Acura, etc.
You are the EXACT demographic for a Macan. Done with the sports car. Baby boomer retiring. No kids in the house. Heading South for the good life.For the record...
I am a 50 (almost 60) something, demographic busting, divorced, empty nester, soon to be retired to the white shores of Somewhereville, FL !
It really has to do with the fact that I met a woman, who shares my love of golf, but did not enjoy traveling to the course with her clubs in her lap as her hair flew all over the place in my Boxster!
I thought the Cayenne was a true 4 x4 with locking hubs but I never looked at it closely.Thank you very much Chows4Us for your superb detailed response... It made so much sense to me why neither the Cayenne or Macan could fill the void for me.
Everything you wrote qualifys me for them except that I seek a hardcore 4x4 off roader. Only three vehicle qualifies for that:
1) Wrangler: stunning but no comfort and very raw
2) Land Cruiser: very reliable and practical
3) Range Rover: very luxurious
I like the three. I own the second. And my heart belongs to the third.
Similar to the Boxster, Cayman & 911, the Cayenne's belly is toooo low to survive off road. That's why I've been saying for years that the Cayenne looks like a midget next to my Land Cruiser. Its ground clearance is very very low too. Over the 5 years of owning my Land Cruiser I have pushed its limits off road where I can understand where it succeeds and others fail. The Land Cruiser is boring on the road but glides conquering the desert when it hits off road. I've driven it in muddy lakes, through rivers, streams, valleys, rocky hills... etc. It drives like no other. That's why the Range Rover Sports fails in hardcore off road; ie too low.I'm not sure about the snow, this is new to me but I'm surprised. If the tires sink in snow the Cayman/Boxster/911 would have its belly raised by the snow and end up with tires spinning in the air. Check Porsche winter schools for reference.
As for the Jeep, no offense, but not in a million year the Jeep can come close to a Land Cruiser. The Empty Quarter Desert here is the test for every single hardcore off road vehicle. No vehicle is allowed by law in the EQ desert except if it was a Land Cruiser. No vehicle ever made it across till last year when Land Rover tested their new Range Rover crossing the EQ desert in a commercial with their camera crews. And since last year only the new Range Rover and Land Cruiser are allowed in. And yes, we deflate our tires half the air before hitting the desert for wider traction.
'You can go off road in a Range Rover, but you only get out in a Land Cruiser' was put to rest last year.
There's only one Land Cruiser, that's Toyota's that I'm referring to.
Below are three pictures of mine in action