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How much will you spend modifying your 911 in the next 12-18 months?

  • $20,001 +

    Votes: 7 4.8%
  • $10,000-$20,000

    Votes: 12 8.2%
  • $5,000-$9,999

    Votes: 28 19.2%
  • $3,000-$4,999

    Votes: 20 13.7%
  • $1000-$2,999

    Votes: 34 23.3%
  • $500-$999

    Votes: 11 7.5%
  • $1-$499

    Votes: 9 6.2%
  • $0

    Votes: 25 17.1%

  • Total voters
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I want to first pay the car off =) with my 2004 Anniversay 911, it pretty much has all it needs (now there's the clinch, keep it stock or go all the way) not really sure!
Great to post here, my first, take care all!
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I need 4 new tires this month which always includes a 4-wheel alignment. I finally ordered the M030 RoW suspension kit for my '99 Carrera 2 coupe. I was waiting until I needed 4 tires and the alignment so that I could save a little on the suspension kit installation by only needing one alignment instead of two by doing the tires and suspension kit at the same time.

This will actually RAISE my cars stance about an inch or so. From new, the car has had a set of Techart lowering springs which REALLY lower the car a ton. I have had to treat cigarette butts like speed bumps, and the thrill of that has finally worn off. The car has the original stock C2 shocks and struts and the stock C2 sway bars. Now it will have a real performance oriented suspension "system" engineered specifically for this car by Porsche.
I'm also getting 4 Pirelli P Zero N4's. I have been using Pirelli P Zero's on this car since new and they have been excellent at the track and OK on the road. They are not designed to give you lots of miles, but I accept that for the extra grip at the track. I do about 2-3 DE's a year. The set of tires going off are Pirelli P Zero System N3's.
I figure that the thicker sway bars and firmer shocks will offset the increase in ride height and thus the center of gravity.

I'll try to remember to let you know how all this works out. It will be a couple weeks before everything arrives.
 

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Big Red is HOME! And the M030 RoW it is SOOOOO AWESOME!!!

My expression of happiness is tainted, however. My 996 was so rough and noisy before on those old worn out tires and shortie springs, and now it is so smooth and quiet and tight. Wow! But, I want to give everything a couple weeks to "settle in" before I really thrash it to find out. It is definitely visibly higher than before - somewhere between 1/2" and 3/4" (20mm?) No question about that. But of course that was exactly the goal. And yet it is very visibly still much lower than the stock Carreras and Cayman (-men? -mans?) that were sitting next to it in the service delivery area. So quiet with 4 new P Zero Rosso N4's. Car feels very tight. Not harsh. Tight. They also did four new factory drop links, new bump stops, new upper strut bushings, and a brand new proper (porcelain) hood crest. I think the new hood crest adds 20 horsepower all by itself.

I did not push it hard on the way home because the old sway bars were in a plastic bag in the back seat area, and the old struts/shocks/springs/etc were in a big heavy box in the trunk. I just wanted to "feel the force within" without throwing stuff around in the car. Tomorrow morning I'm going to drive the cloverleaf at Butler and Southside to get an early feel. Nothing drastic. I expect the new springs to settle just a bit more over the next month. And the tires need a couple weeks to scrub in a bit.
Then I will take some pics to post.

Next up - Fabspeed Maxflow muffler set and the 60,000 mile service. Frank says he will get Jamie to try to order the mufflers at a better price than I can get, and he will install them for free when I bring the car in for the 60k service in a couple months. We went to the Fabspeed website on the computer at the service counter and played the install and sound video for the 996 Maxflows. Everybody there thought it was an excellent sound without being too harsh or too loud. And they weigh a couple pounds less than the stock or TechArt mufflers. I wouldn't have bothered replacing the TechArt mufflers but the right rear muffler has developed a loose baffle (after 12 years - go figure - LOL!) inside that makes an annoying rattle on acceleration when the boxes are really hot. It's not coming from the cats so those 200 cell sport cats will have to wait for a while longer.


The 2009 Cayman S PDK/Sport Chrono/Sport PASM/etc loaner was a real treat to drive these past few days. There is a LOT to like about this car. And yet... I felt a sense of tension while I drove that car. It just seemed so "intent" on doing everything by itself. I felt closed in, but not as claustrophobic as a Boxster. It was like sunshine and flowers when I got back into the Carrera. And the Cayman "felt" heavy. The 996 "feels" light and happy. Silver Cayman, Guards Red Carrera? Mental illness? Totally loved the PDK, but I actually did get annoyed after a while with being in 7th gear at 47 MPH and well under 2000 rpm's all the time. I found myself going manual frequently to drop it down a couple gears. Just seems wrong to be at such low rpm's all the time. This PDK had the steering wheel buttons and that is the ONLY whay to go. Paddle shifters are a joke after having these.
The gas mileage was staggering. I saw 33.5 mpg over long stretches. Big Red will get about 28-29 over that same ground. And the "city" average was about 4mpg higher than I usually get with the 996 in that same drive. PDK was nice in bumper-to-bumper.

The stock seats in my 996 have had 12 years to "adjust" to my butt, but the Cayman seats felt like they were instructing my butt to feel the way THEY wanted me to feel. And they were quite insistent about it. The 996 seats were sooooo nice to come home to.

Cayman S with PDK/Sport stuff is VERY nice. But I'm "at home" in my 996 in so many more ways. Why, I can think of about $50,000 of them right off the bat...

All up for all parts and labor for the M030 kit and install and 4 new tires and alignment - around $4,000.

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'99 C2 coupe. Red... gotta be red.

Florida Crown Region, PCA since 1972
Florida Owners Group (FOG), 356 Registry since 1978
 

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It has been a couple weeks now since I installed the M030 RoW suspension. Although I'm certain the springs will settle some more over time, I thought I would post a before picture (left) and an after picture (right). Remember that the before picture is NOT a STOCK suspension but the very short TechArt springs on an otherwise stock suspension.

Perhaps I will be able to find a fellow early 996'er with a Guards Red coupe with an original and bone stock suspension to pose at that same street corner for comparisopn purposes. Note the street name. Not a PS. Street is located in St. Augustine, FL not far from where I live. Photo on the left was taken about 3 years ago. Photo on the right was taken today.

My goal was to RAISE the suspension without giving up the tightness and trackability. I have "enjoyed" the TechArt springs for over a decade now and the novelty has finally warn off. The TechArt springs were installed when the car was brand new in January 1999. No other suspension changes were made other than alignment.

The M030 suspension included sway bars, shocks/struts, springs, and all new rubber bushings. I took the opportunity to put in new front and rear drop links (stock), bump stops (stock) and 2 new front strut bearings (stock).

Here is the visual result:
 

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I've already voted, and I haven't done much, but here's a sample of my mods that made my black C2S with sport exhaust and sport chrono the perfect street machine - sport shifter, Escort Passport 9500ci, and some window film for 35% darkening. Not much, but enough.
 

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Bilstein Damptronics, Forgeline wheels, sport chrono update, GT3 LCAs, FVD exhaust, hardwired Valentine 1 and maybe the rear dog bone links.
 

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Cost to Date for my 2011 GT3

Tequipment roll bar: $1100
5 point harness: $500
HPDE Wheels & tires: $6000 (Forgeline wheels and Hoosier R6's)
AX Wheels & tires: $6000 ( Forgeline wheels and Nitto NT01's)
HD Traqmate set-up: $2000
Red Center lock nut set: $400
Pagid brake pads Front & Rear $ 900
Clear side marker lights: $90
Track alignment: $300
Hi temp brake fliud: $150


Plans in the future

Sharkwerks Center muffler by-pass: $2000
Softronic ECU upgrade: $1200
GT - LSD: $????
LWFW: $????

I'm sure I'll get over the $20K :eek:
 

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G'day Gadgetman, can I ask why you went the X51 headers and not ones from fabspeed for example? I have 996TT and am looking at replacement performance headers and cats next year also.
Hi Cliff,

My local dealer had a sale on the X51 headers awhile back. Also, check out FVD's products. They have good quality exhaust which has been engineered from M&M in Germany. Rhonda @ FVD is very informative and give you good advise. Darren
 

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Seeing how i am waiting for my TPC Turbo, and all the misc pieces in updating various parts so they wont break or just wear out i am somwhere I the neighborhood of 15K for the moment. I will let you guys know how it goes. Should get it installed first week of March on my 2001 C2.
 

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I think I voted in the $3-5k range.

I'm picking up a car tonight that just entered the $10-20k upgrade range.

This stuff can really add up. I am going to be driving my personal ultimate dream car, though. For something that depreciates, this is a tough pill to swallow..until the engine starts.
 

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Already done:
Black/red cocomats
Das Schild trunk protector

To do:
Leather sun visors, steering wheel column, PDK cover, console lid w/ModelID, Tikore lug bolts

Thinking about:
Fuchs wheelset - I like the classic look of Fuchs (like my 1970 911-T)
 

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My new non-S 991 was ordered with everything I like from Porsche:
- White / Leather Sport Seats in Luxor Beige
- Wheel Center Caps with colored Porsche Crest
- Deletion of Model Designation
- Smoking Package (non-smoker, but I like the lid plus the extra 12V outlet)
- PDK
- Sport Design Steering Wheel
- Sport Chrono
- Sport Exhaust

Before ordering I tested cars with stock suspension versus PASM w/ PTV+ and found the car with the stock suspension more nimble and more immediate in its responses. I never felt any benefits of PTV+ (didn't track it at high speed though).

After pick up, I plan to add:
- Black high quality floor mats (to break up Porsche's all-too-beige interior)
- Das Shield
- Clear Side Markers
- Wheel spacers (as required to perfectly line up the wheels with the fenders)
 

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has anyone here added wood to a car?
I'm assuming you mean on the inside? :taunt:

I've seen some of the factory pieces added before and they are the same as adding one of the carbon fiber or plastic or aluminum look pieces, not too hard to do if you take your time and have some good tools.
 

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Since my 2012 911 GTS came with several performance goodies as standard equipment (Sport Chrono Plus, LSD, X51, Sport Exhaust, etc.) and also has a black full leather interior with red deviated stitching and alcantara delete, my initial outlay was for improving the interior appearance with additional black leather/red deviated stitching parts (purchased from Exclusive Option), carbon fiber center console, small trim pieces painted exterior color (Guards Red), leather sun visors without those blasted airbag warning stickers, heated multifunction carbon fiber and leather steering wheel, fire extinguisher, drilled pedals, voice control, and a bunch of similar stuff. My next upgrade will be a custom installed stealth radar detector/laser jammer. Before I lose my license!
 
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