[stonekutter]

Been following this thread, very helpful. Thank you!

In the Bay Area California the cost of a brake job for all 4 wheels is about $2K at Indy with parts and labor. If you bring your own parts many shops don’t want to work with you or charge 1.5X labor rate with no warranty on their work!

Realized I should invest in a QuickJack and do this myself. First time so a bit nervous!

 

[Boski]

Good thread. Here in Chicago I had a left MSPS4 235 front tire mounted and balanced for $285. I can have the job done all 4 for around $1300.

 

[Swiftse3]

I am fortunate that the local indy Porsche shop is about 2 miles away, and the owner lives around the corner from me. He does my track inspections for free. I have him do my Pennsylvania state annual inspections, my oil changes, and my brake flushes. I do my own brakes.
For me this is a perfect arrangement.

 

[stonekutter]

I am fortunate that the local indy Porsche shop is about 2 miles away, and the owner lives around the corner from me. He does my track inspections for free. I have him do my Pennsylvania state annual inspections, my oil changes, and my brake flushes. I do my own brakes.
For me this is a perfect arrangement.

We need more neighbors like yours!

 

[OmarHGH]

Regarding resurfacing, just my opinion here but I vote "NO". Every bit of material you remove from the rotor changes it's ability to shed heat. Sometimes my company car would have that procedure as dictated by PHH and the reconditioned rotors would warp before the new pads were anywhere near exhausted. Resurfacing is a quick path to pedal pulsing upon hard braking, spend the coin and do it right or you'll be doing it over.

They might've been warping because they were to skinny or slimmer that the required thickness spec. I don't doubt it hurts heat dissipation and I'd just do as a last resort option. I just wanted to list his options but I'm much more favor of just putting new rotors too, they're not that expensive in my opinion and they're an easy job to do yourself. Resurfacing also costs about $40 per and you need new pads (or at least you should) so I can agree that it not the best fix, something better used as a temporary until you can buy new rotors.

 

[OmarHGH]

I don't know a lot about sports cars, I've had my 2013 Boxster for a year and that's it. Previously I would just swap brake pads myself but when I got my pre-winter oil change last year, the dealership told me I really needed brakes and tires. Does this diagnosis and price seem about right? $3414? That's CAD pricing so it's probably $2700 or so USD.

What's with all these bolts that are $200 each? The dealership also told me they don't just do the pads, the whole brake disk needs to be replaced every time you do the brakes, it's part of the maintenance. Is this all correct?

Thanks a lot.

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After going through Porsche Parts USA and checking all the prices, after converting them you actually spent a little less than what we'd spend. Price checks out completely just the labor you paid for. This is for the base brakes 315mm front 299mm rear or the black calipers. My mistake about the PZ4 pricing in the US, $850 was the last I remembered paying for them but I checked the price and they charged you what they're going for. At $1250 id just spend an extra $100-$150 and get PS4S and call it a day. You didn't get ripped off at all though which you shouldn't take for granted because my local one Woodland Hills upsells parts by 30% so now I don't go to them and do it myself or go to DTLA which is honestly just a better dealer in my opinion. Still good guys, but I just don't like getting ripped off.

 

[kmaneh]

Going with quality non-Porsche parts for the brakes could save you about half of the cost. If you are experienced in changing brakes, it will take about 2 hours. Otherwise there are a couple Porsche specialists in Calgary that will install OEM parts at a lower labour rate then the dealer.

Hard to get a real deal on tires. The dealer quoted you N-rated which adds a premium, which I could never perceive the value. You could try Spec Tire and see what they can do. Or Tire Rack.

Right now my Boxster has Conti non-N tires, Zimmerman brake disks, Porsche pads, and wear sensors that are unlabelled.

Good luck!


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[PNW981]

Going with quality non-Porsche parts for the brakes could save you about half of the cost. If you are experienced in changing brakes, it will take about 2 hours. Otherwise there are a couple Porsche specialists in Calgary that will install OEM parts at a lower labour rate then the dealer.

Hard to get a real deal on tires. The dealer quoted you N-rated which adds a premium, which I could never perceive the value. You could try Spec Tire and see what they can do. Or Tire Rack.

Right now my Boxster has Conti non-N tires, Zimmerman brake disks, Porsche pads, and wear sensors that are unlabelled.

Good luck!


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I'm new to the game, where can I get quality non-Porsche parts?

 

[Deemar]

Okay so it looks like I'm going to do this myself to save a lot of the cost and also learn my way around this German machine. I'll do the pads and rotors, plus the front tires but not the rear tires. I found a receipt in the owner's manual for fall of 2019 before I bought that car for 2 rear tires for $1100 so I'm guessing those are still new or close to it. I've owned the car for a year and it was only driven 8,000 kilometres between April and November.

I may also enlist the help of a guy that lives about 5 doors down from me. He has a 196X 911, a 197X 911 and up on a list he has a red 987 Cayman with yellow wheels. He showed me how he swapped the motors between the two older ones and rebuilt the dash in one of them with original parts. He also said he had to argue with Porsche to paint the wheels on his Cayman yellow because they didn't want to warranty it but he paid some crazy amount of money and they did it for him. He told me last summer if I ever need help with my car, he used to be a Porsche mechanic in Germany but I don't know if I want to trust a stranger with my car, I can't verify his stories. Maybe they're true, I don't know. I'll go ask if he can help me with parts and see what he says, he's a super nice guy.

People are telling me here that I need to do a brake flush if I pull the calipers to paint them, is that hard to do? Will the caliper paint peel off? I saw a white Huracan with baby blue calipers on The Stradman's video and it looked amazing.

 

[ledbette]

If you pull the calipers, I'd suggest you cap the brake lines. You'll still want to do a flush, but the less air you get in the lines the better.

I believe the OEM calipers are powder-coated. It's a tough finish. Mine are discolored from track use, but I've not seen any peeling.

I use a Motive bleeder, and the bleeding process is pretty much the same as any other car.

I don't typically do the ABS cycle. If you want to do that, you'll need a iCarScan or similar product to trigger the function. If you don't cap the lines, you'll need to do that too.

 

[kmaneh]

Online from places like Pelican Parts, locally from Porsche repair specialists. If you are a member of PCA, go to a meeting and ask for references in your area. You can find a local chapter website on the PCA.org website and make contact from there. I used to live where the OP is so I can comment on places there. Oddly, sometimes the dealer can be the best price.

 

[kmaneh]

Okay so it looks like I'm going to do this myself to save a lot of the cost and also learn my way around this German machine. I'll do the pads and rotors, plus the front tires but not the rear tires. I found a receipt in the owner's manual for fall of 2019 before I bought that car for 2 rear tires for $1100 so I'm guessing those are still new or close to it. I've owned the car for a year and it was only driven 8,000 kilometres between April and November.

I may also enlist the help of a guy that lives about 5 doors down from me. He has a 196X 911, a 197X 911 and up on a list he has a red 987 Cayman with yellow wheels. He showed me how he swapped the motors between the two older ones and rebuilt the dash in one of them with original parts. He also said he had to argue with Porsche to paint the wheels on his Cayman yellow because they didn't want to warranty it but he paid some crazy amount of money and they did it for him. He told me last summer if I ever need help with my car, he used to be a Porsche mechanic in Germany but I don't know if I want to trust a stranger with my car, I can't verify his stories. Maybe they're true, I don't know. I'll go ask if he can help me with parts and see what he says, he's a super nice guy.

People are telling me here that I need to do a brake flush if I pull the calipers to paint them, is that hard to do? Will the caliper paint peel off? I saw a white Huracan with baby blue calipers on The Stradman's video and it looked amazing.

If you are a novice, don’t bite off more than you can chew. Fix your brakes first, then go back to paint the calipers later. Removing the calipers are an extra degree of difficulty.

 

[jwh981]

Try FCP Euro for parts. They guarantee every part they sell for life, just return the old part and receive a new in return. They have genuine Porsche parts as well as OEM.

 

[Andy M]

I don't know a lot about sports cars, I've had my 2013 Boxster for a year and that's it. Previously I would just swap brake pads myself but when I got my pre-winter oil change last year, the dealership told me I really needed brakes and tires. Does this diagnosis and price seem about right? $3414? That's CAD pricing so it's probably $2700 or so USD.

What's with all these bolts that are $200 each? The dealership also told me they don't just do the pads, the whole brake disk needs to be replaced every time you do the brakes, it's part of the maintenance. Is this all correct?

Thanks a lot.

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[Andy M]

Google Porsche or European auto service. There are non-Porsche dealers who specialize in servicing high performance cars. I found a good one that charges half what Porsche does and can use high quality parts too

 

[Mnardy1]

I don't know a lot about sports cars, I've had my 2013 Boxster for a year and that's it. Previously I would just swap brake pads myself but when I got my pre-winter oil change last year, the dealership told me I really needed brakes and tires. Does this diagnosis and price seem about right? $3414? That's CAD pricing so it's probably $2700 or so USD.

What's with all these bolts that are $200 each? The dealership also told me they don't just do the pads, the whole brake disk needs to be replaced every time you do the brakes, it's part of the maintenance. Is this all correct?

Thanks a lot.

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There are lots of things wrong with how you are reading that quote. The caliper bolts were quoted to me yesterday at $11 each from my local dealer. They are $5 online even as Genuine Porsche. They are charging you $50 for 4 or $12.50 each.Since that is CAD it is normal. Most of those prices match the dealer markup vs online retailers. Shop around a bit if it helps you feel more comfortable with the #s. Your tires seem a bit on the pricey side but I have been looking at Michelins and can have a set of PS4S delivered for $1000. Our sizes are different but that quote is double.

 

[schell]

I 2nd Pelican Parts and FCP Euro, I like the Sebro Rotors in my option better than OEM, I use the slotted not the drilled, the drilled tend to crack over time, I would use the Textar pads for about 1/2 the price, by the way Porsche pads are made by Textar, you can reuse all of the dampeners if you wish, if your sensors have not been triggered I would tie them back out of the way and not use them.

 

[stonekutter]

I ordered all my parts from FCP Euro and waiting for them to be delivered. Sebro seems to be a good fit especially for any track use and I ordered the Ferodo 2500 pads. Hopefully the lifetime replacement saves some money!

Is ABS Cycle recommended and is a PIWIS required or would iCarSoft work to do that?

 

[4131blajo]

I don't know a lot about sports cars, I've had my 2013 Boxster for a year and that's it. Previously I would just swap brake pads myself but when I got my pre-winter oil change last year, the dealership told me I really needed brakes and tires. Does this diagnosis and price seem about right? $3414? That's CAD pricing so it's probably $2700 or so USD.

What's with all these bolts that are $200 each? The dealership also told me they don't just do the pads, the whole brake disk needs to be replaced every time you do the brakes, it's part of the maintenance. Is this all correct?

Thanks a lot.

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The labor fee is expensive.i’ve learned the DIY tricks because of that.you can get the tires from you regular tire store as long as it’s rated close to your car tires specs.N1 or N2 or similar for cayman or boxer.for brake disc you can use it twice before replacing iton a regular driving condition not for racing.you just have to resurface from midas company or same brake shop company.just buy the brake pads like textar or similar have them install it if you can’t do it urself.if you wanna save money.brakes basically the same in general the way you replace it.this is just a suggestions,you don’t have to follow it.i just though i could share my experience.i know i saved a lot of money for diy projects such as change oil,transmission oil change,brakes and rotor change.and it’s a routine maintenance.so goodluck.hope it gives you an ideas.i’m also a first time owner or porsche.inexperience about sports car.

 

[Swiftse3]

Is ABS Cycle recommended and is a PIWIS required or would iCarSoft work to do that?
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I have replaced pads and rotors multiple times and have never needed to reset anything in the car's computer.