First i have hte Conti's on mine.Not meaning to be a wise a$$ or anything but that's actually mentioned in the owners manual. Something about recommending caution below 40°F. Prior experience says they resemble the tires used on model cars at 18°F.
If you want real fun try them with a little snow. Doesn't seem like they ever warm up. Turns look like something from the WRC.
Any summer tires will loose a lot of grip at below 30 F. Below 20 F, it's really noticable. That's why there are all-season and winter tires. I bought a set of Pirelli winters for my car and they're terrific. Limits are a little lower than summer tires in summer, but grip is much better below 40 F in dry and you can actually drive the thing over packed snow. Don't even try on a set of summer tires.Do you have the Michelins? Even though it doesn't get bitterly cold down here I can feel the effects on the car when it gets down in the 20's or low 30's F. Glad to have heated seats!
You must be the only one. Sometimes just can't help myself. Oddball sense of humor that most don't get.First i have hte Conti's on mine.
Second. Don't think you're a wise ***. I expected weird handling, just not as bad as it was. I won't take it out if I see snow anywhere in the forecast.
One of the very first E36's? I had a 98. That sounds like a white knuckle ride.Any summer tires will loose a lot of grip at below 30 F. Below 20 F, it's really noticable. That's why there are all-season and winter tires. I bought a set of Pirelli winters for my car and they're terrific. Limits are a little lower than summer tires in summer, but grip is much better below 40 F in dry and you can actually drive the thing over packed snow. Don't even try on a set of summer tires.
10 Dec 1994, I picked up my brand spanking new M3 from a suburb North of Chicago near the lake. The lake warms the air temps around there. It was a light rain. By the time we'd finished with the long delivery process, it was dinner time. We had a 50 mile drive home, so I treated my friend, who drove me to the dealer in his car, to dinner. After dinner, still light rain but with a few flakes of snow. We headed West toward home and within 5 miles it was snowing. By 10 miles, it was a white-out. 20 miles was the interstate and we got on. 6" or so of snow had fallen by then and I was getting adept at sliding around in my brand new car. Acceleration was a joke. The technique was to shift out of first as soon as the car was actually moving and just use minimum revs and minimum throttle for the gentlest possible acceleration. I actually passed a couple Camaros with extra fat tires on wide rims. You know the ones. We made it all the way to my little burg without incident by my traveling in other people's tire tracks and just planning my starts and stops very thoroughly but when I got to my own neighborhood, the little streets hadn't been used at all...virgin snow.
The tires, Michelin Pilot Sport MXX3, were so bad on this, that I was sliding sideways toward the curbings just from the camber of the road. Had to drive in the gravitational center of the road to keep from banging the curbs. I love this last part...It took 3 well-planned attenpts to get up my minimumly inclined driveway. The final successful attempt involved me taking the snow-packed curbing at a 45 degrees and running across my front lawn and drift turning into the garage. Car still less than 4 hours old.
I have read that track tires, DOT, r-compounds, shouldn't be stored at sub-freezing temperatures, but have never heard anything about other tires.I think I recall reading somewhere that you're not supposed to drive high performance summer tires below 35 degrees F because it changes the tire compound in some way so that they nearly loose most of their grip properties come spring time when you take them out again in warmer weather. Has anyone else heard of this? True? False?
Chuck:I have read that track tires, DOT, r-compounds, shouldn't be stored at sub-freezing temperatures, but have never heard anything about other tires.
Nitto Storage Recommendations Competition Tires
Toyo Cold Weather Tire Storage
Nitto and Toyo say < 15°F in the pdfs above, but I've read other recommendations with higher temperatures.
I think I recall reading somewhere that you're not supposed to drive high performance summer tires below 35 degrees F because it changes the tire compound in some way so that they nearly loose most of their grip properties come spring time when you take them out again in warmer weather. Has anyone else heard of this? True? False?
I haven't driven under 35 degrees in fear of this especially considering the cost of these tires. I don't want to mess them up and not be able to really use them to their full potential when the weather warms up come spring/ summer.
A guy in BMW CCA, Dave Farnsworth, who now writes a column for the Roundel Magazine, had THE first E36 delivered in the US. I got a ride in his at Blackhawk Farms Raceway in spring of 1994 and put my order in shortly after that. In 1993, I did Automobile Magazine's Grand Tour II with Jean Lindamood and David E. Davis and 50 or so other guests. One of the highlights for me was a ride in the screaming yellow Euro M3 that BMW had provided him for a few weeks. He and his wife were running this trip on it and doing a tour of their own afterwards. Those cars have a hundred more HP than the US M3s and stiffer suspensions. I thought it was too stiff, but it sure was fast. David was thrilled with this car and we had arranged for this drive after I mentioned my interest in it at dinner one night. We stormed a 4-lane out of the Lake Como area on a Sunday morning, blasting through tunnels and uphill sweepers for about 10 miles before ducking onto a side road that turned out to be a dead end. We turned around and flew back to base camp. The whole thing took maybe 15 minutes. Great fun. I was driving a lowly 318i with skinny radials for this trip. I thought overall I had the better car for the conditions we were driving in most of the time. The M3's suspension was too stiff and the tires really pounded. Our car was a joy with a beautiful ride/handling balance. Limits were higher on the M3 but you couldn't use them very often and you suffered the rest of the time...too much of a good thing for most Euro roads. The 318i had less weight in front and a little more suspension travel in the beautifully designed chassis. It was a joy to drive in the Alps, especially on the smaller, twistier stuff.One of the very first E36's? I had a 98. That sounds like a white knuckle ride.
This is what I've found also. Unless it is really cold, most tires will warm up fine after a short while.I noticed reduced grip with my PS2s at temps in the 50s. Needed a little warmup, then they were close to "normal."