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A popular VW enthusiast site has a similar thread. Post up what you did to your 987. Types of things to post could be cleaning, maintaining, modifying, piloting it around a track, etc. Post pics if you can. This thread can inspire others to do something similar. I'll start...
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For some reason, can’t open the pictures…love to see visuals of your alpine head unit after install.
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LN Engineering 2qt Deep Sump & Baffle Kit installed on the car today. Getting ready to do some more heavy tracking with the car. Once the gasket cures overnight, filling up with Red Line 5w50 for 3000 miles before a switch to Motul 8100 or 300V.

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Yep, I installed this exact sump over 5 years ago. Seems to work well, but the return oil sits on top of the windage plate and shoshes up the walls into the bottom of the AOS. I finally had the Porsche Motorsports AOS installed, and no oil downs after that.
I use Motul 300V Competition 5W-40. I called Motul a month ago about their additive package and their rep told me that this motor oil is good for at least 3500 miles between oil changes. I was inquiring about the Motul Power 300V 5W-40 which has been dropped and in its place is the Competition oil. No explaination on why the change just Motul felt that this package would work very well for me. Amazon still was trying to sell the Power 5W-40 product but their suppliers kept switching to the Competition 5W-40 product. The Competition product is physically heavier weight but has the same viscosity as I have 3 tins left over. It comes in special tin cans. This is the 3rd year with the Motul power/competition products.
I would also recommend the LN spin on filter as it provides much less back pressure to help prevent #6 rod bearing scaring. George at LN can set you up. They also sell their track filter which is just a screen that you wash out when changing to street oil. LN suggests the Xp9 only be used for less than 500 miles which was a sticking point for me. Motul 300V Competition 5W-40 is the product that that works well.
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I would also add a Wavetrac LSD to your transaxle. Its a great product without clutches and it certainly works in the wet and dry providing added traction without any snap over steer effects after the apex. The slider wave is what locks up and transfers power to the planted tire.
A 996 heat exchanger will fit and adds about 40 more square inches of oil/water heat exchange.
I also added Sprint Booster to open the throttle body quickly as the two tire thrust certainly can handle this engine's limited hp. I'm using Bridgestons new track tire RE71RS as well which sticks well and has good longevity.
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A little tweak I added last month, just got around to taking pics.
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Yep, I installed this exact sump over 5 years ago. Seems to work well, but the return oil sits on top of the windage plate and shoshes up the walls into the bottom of the AOS. I finally had the Porsche Motorsports AOS installed, and no oil downs after that.

I would also recommend the LN spin on filter as it provides much less back pressure to help prevent #6 rod bearing scaring. George at LN can set you up. They also sell their track filter which is just a screen that you wash out when changing to street oil.

I would also add a Wavetrac LSD to your transaxle. Its a great product without clutches and it certainly works in the wet and dry providing added traction without any snap over steer effects after the apex. The slider wave is what locks up and transfers power to the planted tire.

A 996 heat exchanger will fit and adds about 40 more square inches of oil/water heat exchange.
I also added Sprint Booster to open the throttle body quickly as the two tire thrust certainly can handle this engine's limited hp. I'm using Bridgestons new track tire RE71RS as well which sticks well and has good longevity.
Hi Apex, thanks for the detailed response! I am friends with DinkyHatchback irl and was following along with the thread regarding his blown AOS and 300V. I am planning to make the switch over to 300V at my next oil interval (3000 miles) - I had already ordered my Red Line by the time you had responded to him with the suggestion to use 300V.

I think from a price standpoint I may opt for the UAOS (Ultimate AOS) vs. the $1800 Motorsports AOS to solve the constant AOS blowing problems. My car started up today morning with a pretty significant puff of smoke and it's only been 10 miles since my oil change. Does LN offer PCA pricing/discount on the spin on filter? I think when I do my next oil change I'll switch to the spin on filter to pump up my oil pressure.

Personally, since I don't track the car as much as you or many other members here do, I may skip out on the LSD for now as I haven't felt the need for it with my driving abilities yet. How does the 996 heat exchanger fit - is it bolt on or does it require modification to the part/car? I've also never heard about the sprint booster - I've heard mixed things about the IPD plenum/GT3 throttle body so I'm unsure if the sprint booster is a similar modification. I'm currently using Pilot Super Sports that the car came with from the previous owner but I'm shopping around for good street/track combo tyres. Leaning towards RE71RS, CR-S, or SC3 tyres.
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Liketheboss- Sprint Booster is an electronic aid that plugs into your throttle peddle. It opens the throttle body much more rapidly to mimic the big brother 911 group, Porsche downplays the Cayman to make sure the 911 is faster by using this sort of programing. Look it up on the Sprint Booster web site. Not every owner believes this stuff, but with the LSD, I certainly can use more thrust without any tire spin.
The Porsche Motorsports AOS also sucks the addition oil from the heads. 987.1 need this suction as the 9A1 motors have 4 head oil pumps, while the 987.1 have 2. So the Motorsports help with this oil being collected in the heads on high G corners. Not sure the Ultimate AOS sucks the oil out of the heads like the Motorsports does.
The 996 oil/water heat exchanger is a plug and play, just make sure the mounting feet are the same as the one on your car. I had the wrong one being installed only to find out there are many 996 models of the exchanger. So its all about the mounting feet. You might need a small water return line as well. Cantrell installed mine, but that return line really needs to be sealed by about 3 hose clamps. The interesting part about this exchanger is it actually heats up the engine faster. Why Porsche did not use this one on our cars is a mystery. So it helps heat up the engine faster and keep the oil cooler.
The Bridgestone RE71RS are a great tire. I have 4 minutes of toe out in front so plenty of quick turn-in. Great in the wet as well.
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Liketheboss- Sprint Booster is an electronic aid that plugs into your throttle peddle. It open the throttle body much more rapidly to mimic the big brother 911 group, Porsche downplays the Cayman to make sure the 911 is faster by using this sort of programing. Look it up on the Sprint Booster web site. Not every owner believes this stuff, but with the LSD, I certainly can use more thrust without any tire spin.
The Porsche Motorsports AOS also sucks the addition oil from the heads. 987.1 need this suction as the 9A1 motors have 4 head oil pumps, while the 987.1 have 2. So the Motorsports help with this oil being collected in the heads on high G corners. Not sure the Ultimate AOS sucks the oil out of the heads like the Motorsports does.
Looked into the sprint booster - my car is a sport chrono car and I already feel like the sport mode throttle response is a bit annoying to daily drive. I'm unsure if that mod is right for me but it may be best when coupled with the LSD. Is there any benefit of going with Wavetrac vs. Quaife? I know both manufacture LSDs for the 987.

That's an interesting point regarding the UAOS. I'll be sure to do some more research on the differences between the motorsports AOS and the UAOS and pick the appropriate one for my use-case.
Liketheboss- Sprint Booster is an electronic aid that plugs into your throttle peddle. It open the throttle body much more rapidly to mimic the big brother 911 group, Porsche downplays the Cayman to make sure the 911 is faster by using this sort of programing. Look it up on the Sprint Booster web site. Not every owner believes this stuff, but with the LSD, I certainly can use more thrust without any tire spin.
The Porsche Motorsports AOS also sucks the addition oil from the heads. 987.1 need this suction as the 9A1 motors have 4 head oil pumps, while the 987.1 have 2. So the Motorsports help with this oil being collected in the heads on high G corners. Not sure the Ultimate AOS sucks the oil out of the heads like the Motorsports does.
Can you explain how the motorsports AOS would manage to suck a meaningful amount of oil from the front of the head? Isn't the AOS located towards the rear of the motor? And if it does suck oil up, vacuum is pulled via the intake so wouldn't the oil go there instead of back to the sump? I always thought the AOS was supposed to separate oily vapors from the air before it got pulled into the intake system, not act as another scavenge pump.

Small edit: I had a discussion with you a while ago where you mentioned ZDDP being bad for the plastic matrix on the m97 piston skirts. Can you link me to some resources describing that? I'm interested to learn more.
Dinky- I'm not a genius here. I just take the facts and analyze the results. Porsche should not have developed this cylinder wall matrix with an plastic like skirt coating on the pistons. Whats even more interesting is that 996 motors did not recieve the same treatment. So, to the ZDDP issue, well I looked up this additive and what it brings to the engine cylinder walls. Mostly, in other makes engines, if they are steel and the pistons are hardened aluminum, then no issues as the two materials co exist with the rings rubbing off the small additives that ZDDP deposits on the metal. What happens with the M97 engine is different. The ZDDP does deposit on the cylinder walls, but the piston skirts plastic does not rub this deposit off. Rather it works the opposite way. The ZDDP deposit rubs away the plastic coating on the piston skirts. Unfortunately, ZDDP is in most oils as an additive. Oil companies are not going to change their formulations do to the way Porsche decided to save a few bucks by not using top of the line pistons and better cylinder sleeves.
So, here we are, Porsche changed the pistons and the cylinder blocks in the 9A1 engine in 09. I am not going to put a great deal of time into researching ZDDP as the government is going to eliminate it as an additive soon due to its coating of the catalytic converter. So, for us with the M97 engine, lets just not be one who experiences bore scoring from the piston skirt failure. What exactly happened to have this bore score is a big question but I have made this connection due to a number of owners who raced their 987.1 S car successfully without a blow up from either bore scoring or #6 rod bearing scaring from oil starvation. Two different issues but the result was with the use of Motul Power 300V 5W-40 or now Competition 300V 5W-40 they completed almost 200 track days. So what happened here to allow these guys a free pass while other racers were experiencing melt down form either bore scoring or rod bearing scaring. The ZDDP issue is not an issue with the rod bearing, in fact it probably would help, but that issue is oil starvation.
Back to the Porsche MotorSports AOS. So, I added the LN deep sump with the x51 baffle and windage plate on top. The first autocross, I oiled down my AOS, smoke everywhere. Next run the same, so I retired and limped home. The oil finally was burnt out of the cat and muffler. I changed the AOS. The next event the same AOS failure happened. So I had a conversation with Colin Cantrell, who called LN about the two additional head oil pumps that can be installed. LN said they stopped importing those pumps from Germany because with the use of the Porsche MotorSports AOS. they are not necessary. I pushed hard to get the two additional pumps installed but Colin said he is going to follow LN's decision as LN runs a whole fleet of 987.1 race cars at the time. He installed the Porsche 987.1 Motorsports AOS and big tubing from the heads to the AOS. I have had no smoke of other negatives from this system. That was almost 4 years ago and many track days. See tandem head oil pumps below from BRS. part of LN.
The forthy oil from the heads that is not removed by the single pump in each head comes back to the AOS via vacuum suction. How exactly Porsche designed it to remove this head oil better than the OEM one is beyond me. I have had no Porsche motorsports failure so no AOS to cut apart. Maybe you can cut one apart and report back.
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Dinky- I'm not a genius here. I just take the facts and analyze the results. Porsche should not have developed this cylinder wall matrix with an plastic like skirt coating on the pistons. Whats even more interesting is that 996 motors did not recieve the same treatment. So, to the ZDDP issue, well I looked up this additive and what it brings to the engine cylinder walls...
Thanks for the info, both about the pistons and the AOS. One thing I'd like to add is after reading Charles Navarro's paper on Ni-Sl cylinder walls, he describes Moly as a better version of ZDDP. While he says both are helpful in tandem, I gather that moly is what we specifically should look for since ZDDP is ill-advised. Good thing 300V is full of moly ;)

As someone interested in the tandem scavenge pumps myself, I think I'll reach out to LN to see if they can give me some more insight as to how the Porsche motorsports AOS works and whether the UAOS functions the same. I hope they know since they're a vendor for both products.
Sounds good. Maybe Charles will devoulge some Porsche knowledge about the internal workings of the Motorsports AOS. He really pushed this solution and not the tandom oil pumps I was willing to buy and have installed. He told Colin Cantrell, my shop owner to just use large diameter head oil return lines to the AOS. That was 4 years ago as I wondered about those ugly large oil line over my motor to the AOS, but the return line seem to be working well.
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He told Colon Cantrell my shop owner to just use large diameter head oil return lines to the AOS.
Just to confirm, are you talking about these?
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No, I'm talking about the vacuum lines that go to the heads. This attaches to the Plenum with two hookup and the single with the two lines attaches to the AOS.
No, I'm talking about the vacuum lines that go to the heads. This attaches to the Plenum with two hookup and the single with the two lines attaches to the AOS.
Oh wow, I guess it's this lower line ( 987-107-947-00-OEM ). Didn't know this ran to the head, interesting! Maybe that large diameter piping his what helps with oil draining out of the head. Ill make sure to add that to my car when I upgrade my AOS
Its actually froth in most cases except for high g loads, then the oil gets collected on the end where there is no oil pump. The 9A1 have oil pump on both ends of each head. The Motor Sports AOS helps suck out this frothy head oil and send it back into the sump via the windage plate, if you have a LN deep sump. The windage plate will allow the oil to move around getting the air out of the oil before it goes into the sump
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. Was disappointed by the fit /finish as the side Screens had to be trimmed and gap left in order to removed fog/driving lamps without removing . I discussed this with Rennline tech and why this wasn't mentioned in their catalog information so the customer would know prior to purchase . For the cost I would expect better fit.
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Today I ordered new tensioner and idler pullies. For some unidentifiable reason when the tensioner pully self destructs the belt get destroyed as well as some of the plastic pieces chip the other pullies. Glad they went as I pulled in to work. All joking aside glad the boom of the belt breaking was the worst of the failure. Though only 58k on the pullies they are OEM from 2008, so I guess I really should have replaced them sooner. Well they are on the way.
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Changed the inner/outer CV boots on the drivers side. and then noticed the passenger side engine mount appears to be failing/bleeding. Guess I'll order them next....
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Changed the inner/outer CV boots on the drivers side. and then noticed the passenger side engine mount appears to be failing/bleeding. Guess I'll order them next.... View attachment 285828 View attachment 285829
Are they oil filled?
Put my car up on the lift bars and did an oil change.
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Are they oil filled?
Yep. Those are the transmission motor mounts and they are both hydraulic.

Changed the inner/outer CV boots on the drivers side. and then noticed the passenger side engine mount appears to be failing/bleeding. Guess I'll order them next....
Wow, small world. I just did my trans motor mounts and CV axles a few weeks ago. Consider yourself lucky, my axles seized in the hub so I had to pull the entire knuckles off to the boots. Not fun but worth the preventative maintenance so I don't break an axle.

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One tip I was given was to make sure you don't get grease in the bolt holes on the axle flange. If you do they can back out and sheer off the flange and then you have bigger problems. I put all my bolts in, then individually took them out, cleaned them, and added a pinch of blue loctite.
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