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I got my 2014 Cayman at a Dodge/Jeep dealer in Alexandria Virginia. The 40k service is something they did prior to selling it to me - and as you know it’s a big one.

Being an engineer, I like redundancies. And, this is a check state that I don’t have a lot of confidence in. Their mission was to sell the car and turn a profit, and it’s easy to imagine letting expensive part replacements slide.

That said, if you take a car to a mechanic looking for problems, they will find problems. The car drives fine. You get a bit of the burning oil smell when you push it to the limit, but it seems within a normal range to me.

I have three years of warranty on all parts that don’t normally wear and tear like the clutch. So, if they did miss something I won’t have to pay for it.
 

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What documentation did they provide of the 40k service? Paperwork or just a salesperson stating it was done? Do you have any factory warranty remaining? You have 4 years from the in-service date. Is the 3 year warranty you mention Porsche CPO or third party? If any factory warranty left I'd consider taking it to a dealer for inspection before the expiry. Otherwise I'd probably take it to a Porsche indy with a good reputation for the next service due and have them do a good visual inspection. All that said these are generally reliable cars. Hope that helps. Best of luck
 

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What documentation did they provide of the 40k service? Paperwork or just a salesperson stating it was done? Do you have any factory warranty remaining? You have 4 years from the in-service date. Is the 3 year warranty you mention Porsche CPO or third party? If any factory warranty left I'd consider taking it to a dealer for inspection before the expiry. Otherwise I'd probably take it to a Porsche indy with a good reputation for the next service due and have them do a good visual inspection. All that said these are generally reliable cars. Hope that helps. Best of luck
It's a third party warranty. Basically added $50 a month onto the car for three total years of coverage. Not gonna lie, don't feel confident in it, but $600 a year to cover catastrophic failures seems reasonable.

The paperwork I received on the car was so general it makes me want to scream. It basically tells me that service has been done and where, but has no details.

I like the idea of taking it to a Porsche indy specialist. I need to build a working relationship with one anyway - because the dealership nearest to me is terrible.
 

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Interesting! The FAQ page makes them seem like Entitled Jerkstores, but if you’ve had a good experience with it - I’m game! It would be great to have some hard data.

Can’t get very deep into an engineering career without encountering a few personality disorders anyway. ;)
 

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Interesting! The FAQ page makes them seem like Entitled Jerkstores, but if you’ve had a good experience with it - I’m game! It would be great to have some hard data.

Can’t get very deep into an engineering career without encountering a few personality disorders anyway. ;)
I found their FAQs to be pretty funny! Good experience for sure, though. Cheap piece of mind IMO.

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The 40k service includes plugs & coils that need to be replaced with OEM or OEM Supplier parts...unless the invoice states what parts (with part numbers) were used, I wouldn't be comfortable at all they were replaced. The engine cover needs to be removed to get at the air filter, a simple process that takes an owner 30 minutes or so to remove the first time (15 or so minutes thereafter) that I highly doubt a Dodge/Jeep dealer tech would know how to do. Once the engine bay is opened up, I'd replace the serpentine belt as a preventative measure (it's not due to be changed until the next major service).

If it were my car, I'd get all the necessary parts from the dealer (or Suncoast or Pelican) to perform the service, then take it to an Indy expecting that nothing has been done. Even if the oil appears fresh, I'd swap it with a known brand that meets specs, and replace the filter and crush washer. Cabin filter is easy to check. If you buy parts from a local dealer, they will be a bit more expensive but any items not needed can be easily retuned.
 

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I would have gotten a Pre-Purchase Inspection from someone that knew something about Porsche's (dealer or indy) to at least to look for any over-revving. I am surprised that a Dodge dealer would be able to clear the service me now notice on the car computer. Did you look at the vehicle info screen for the next service date?
 

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Have a 2014 Base Cayman, original owner, PDK, has only 20.5K miles on it. The warranty expires in 3 months. Last 3rd service was just oil at 16K and have had the other 2 services at the one yr mark intervals, regardless of mileage.

Does it pay to get the $2100 4yr/40,000 mile dealer service soon even if I am self paying for any repairs and service.
Car runs great and has less then 21K miles.

I do plan on keeping this baby for a loooong time since it is mainly just a weekender and is in great shape.

I just have a feeling that the service will be a ripoff and done halfass with nothing found wrong leaving me with the same risk of unwarranteed repair costs coming at the same time
anyway.
 

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imho, a vague notation of the 40k service being done by JEEP wouldn't satisfy me, that could just mean they did an oil/filter change + multi-point visual inspection.

It's never a bad idea to start from 0 with you as the driver, and get a PPI done + most current service for peace of mind. Not to scare you, but those ppl you hear about their engine suddenly spewing oil, always pretty much say the car "was driving fine...up to that point". You could risk it I suppose, but I'd ask yourself would you rather spend $2k now or risk spending $20k later? it comes down to personal preference of risk ultimately.
 

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Its easy enough to take a look at the prefilter (in the frunk) and the cabin air filter under the glove box---If these are filthy then the 40k service hasn't been done.
You don't have to remove the engine cover on your car to check the engine air filters either and those being dirty would also be an indicator that the 40k service hasn't been done. there are a couple of youtube videos on how to change the engine air filters on the 981 cayman.

Are there entries stamped in the car record book by a dealer for doing the 10,20 and 30k services? If you can't verify any of these (my 2014 boxster doesn't have any of these entries, but I do have all the service records from new) then more of a question about prior service.

Good driving---the 981's are fantastic cars, very reliable. I'm right at 60k on mine now.
 

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Would NOT trust a Dodge/Jeep dealer to know anything about a Porsche. Nor would I trust their 40K service claim. Find a good independent Porsche mechanic and have them go over the car. If you don't know any, your local Porsche Club of America members will be able to recommend someone.

Regarding the Blackstone oil analysis, more than a few folks have done that and continue to do so but it's not something that has ever concerned me. My 2008 has 43,000 miles, runs great, doesn't smoke or use any oil what so ever so I never even considered getting the used oil analyzed. If I was having some kind of problem I might engage them for an analysis but never had a need. Also I would not go to a dealer for anything but warranty work or while the car was under warranty. Their pricing is off the charts compared to an equally qualified independent Porsche mechanic. Good luck.:cheers:
 

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imho, a vague notation of the 40k service being done by JEEP wouldn't satisfy me, that could just mean they did an oil/filter change + multi-point visual inspection.

It's never a bad idea to start from 0 with you as the driver, and get a PPI done + most current service for peace of mind. Not to scare you, but those ppl you hear about their engine suddenly spewing oil, always pretty much say the car "was driving fine...up to that point". You could risk it I suppose, but I'd ask yourself would you rather spend $2k now or risk spending $20k later? it comes down to personal preference of risk ultimately.
Well, you convinced me.

I looked more carefully at the records I have, and this car has only been serviced by a Honda dealer and a Dodge dealer. Oy. I have their numbers, so I’m going to call today and ask for copies of everything they’ve done.

The service computer does seem to be set correctly, which is a plus.

Glad to have my instincts to check their work verified. Thanks for backing me up.
 

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I purchased my ‘07 987 from Porsche of Arlington and found them honest and straightforward in their dealings and service. I would definitely take it to a Porsche dealer for many of the reasons already stated. They might not be the least expensive but they do have factory training mechanics and OEM parts. Best way to start out your Porsche experience with peace of mind.
 

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The 40k service includes plugs & coils that need to be replaced with OEM or OEM Supplier parts...unless the invoice states what parts (with part numbers) were used, I wouldn't be comfortable at all they were replaced. The engine cover needs to be removed to get at the air filter, a simple process that takes an owner 30 minutes or so to remove the first time (15 or so minutes thereafter) that I highly doubt a Dodge/Jeep dealer tech would know how to do. Once the engine bay is opened up, I'd replace the serpentine belt as a preventative measure (it's not due to be changed until the next major service).

If it were my car, I'd get all the necessary parts from the dealer (or Suncoast or Pelican) to perform the service, then take it to an Indy expecting that nothing has been done. Even if the oil appears fresh, I'd swap it with a known brand that meets specs, and replace the filter and crush washer. Cabin filter is easy to check. If you buy parts from a local dealer, they will be a bit more expensive but any items not needed can be easily retuned.
As far as I am aware coils don't have to be replaced at the 40k service and are not on the 40k checklist. Also the engine cover doesn't need to be removed to replace the air filters on the 981 and the only engine panel that needs to be removed for a 40k service is the "rear wall cover" to check the drive belt which is a huge pain to do. I replaced my drive belt since it didn't make sense removing the interior again at 60k miles but my belt looked almost new and was an interesting DIY. I had my indy do the plugs as they are on pretty tight and the old ones looked pretty new so it would be hard to tell if they were replaced or not.
 

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The car drives fine. You get a bit of the burning oil smell when you push it to the limit, but it seems within a normal range to me.
Don't mean to upset you, but you shouldn't be smelling burning oil when your car is pushed to red line. At least I've never owned a Porsche that had that characteristic.
 

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Don't mean to upset you, but you shouldn't be smelling burning oil when your car is pushed to red line. At least I've never owned a Porsche that had that characteristic.
My car doesn't burn any noticeable amount of oil (always full bars) but on cold days you can smell something similar to a something burning. To me it smell like rubber on the exhaust or the coating on the exhaust. There is a thread here on it so if its the same smell its normal. http://www.planet-9.com/981-chat/186633-cayman-s-burning-smell.html
 

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@Spacekatgal: For me, this is a no brainer. Honda, Dodge/Jeep dealers can not do justice to a Porsche beyond an oil and filter change. Your car is still under warrantee and to insure it will last and remain within warrantee take it to your Porsche dealer and get the 40K service. Yes it is expensive but it will buy lot of peace of mind. PS, the only exception to my advice would be if the H & D/J dealers sent it to the local Porsche dealer for the service. If they did then they will, or can get, the records for it. Save the records, it will come in handy when you decide you want to move up to a GT4. lol
 
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