I think they're trying to say the car has never been driven hard or has any of the damages that are associated with racing i.e. rock chips etc.

 

never been raced = less chance of over rev?

 

Never been raced=never had fun.:hilarious:

 

It's mostly just salesmanship. Not meaning to be pedantic, but actually racing like PCA Club Racing- the interior would have been gutted, roll cage, race seats, cut off switch etc, etc. They may mean has not been tracked as in HPDE. A car that has seen regular track use will have many rock chips on the front including the lights and windshield, rubber marks that you can't quite get off, replaced front splitters etc. Track miles are hard on a car and will definitely affect the value.

 

I don't see how racing has hurt the resale value of the Porsche 917's....

 

As Zedcat says, actual door-to-door racing is different than a DE, and requires a bunch of modifications. A car that has done regular Time Attack events or seen some serious autocrossing will have been subjected to more stress on certain components, but depending on the car it doesn't necessarily undermine the value. A significant percentage of GT3s see track time, for example, as do Cayman Rs. GT4s will almost certainly be tracked more than other Porsches, and a few events a year wouldn't be a cause for concern unless a buyer is looking for a garage queen.

I view "never..." statements in ads as a bit odd, as though they are testament to a car leading a "perfect" life.

Never seen rain? Ummm...ok, but what about salty ocean spray on a drive down the coast?

Never been smoked in? What about driving in the summer in an area close to forest fires?

Never been raced? Great, but have you ever missed a shift, or hit a pothole at speed? Do you run the engine through its rev range, or constantly lug it in the mistaken belief that keeping it under 3,000 RPM is good for it? How about short trips? Do you regularly subject the car to short trips where it never gets up to operating temperature?

Other lame copy in ads includes:
- No test drives. Really, as a seller you actually expect someone to plunk down tens of thousands of dollars without trying the product? Apply that approach to other consumer items to see how nuts it sounds. "No sir, I'm afraid you can't see the picture on the television until you pay me." Or "This True elliptical machine is very special, and costs two or three times as much as an 'ordinary' machine. You'll just have to take my word that it's awesome and functions perfectly."
- Serious enquiries only: What the heck does that even mean? How many people would spend the time contacting a seller about an item if there wasn't some level of interest? Any rational person selling a product should be happy to entertain any and all enquiries, as you can't identify a potential buyer until you ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM.

 

Never seen rain? Ummm...ok, but what about salty ocean spray on a drive down the coast?

Not near an ocean. Some cars are garage queens because they melt in the rain. No water spots. I believe it.

Never been smoked in? What about driving in the summer in an area close to forest fires?

Don't live near forests.

Never been raced? Great, but have you ever missed a shift, or hit a pothole at speed?

Racing, like Club Racing, is far, far more abusive than hard driving. Not even close.

Do you run the engine through its rev range, or constantly lug it in the mistaken belief that keeping it under 3,000 RPM is good for it? How about short trips? Do you regularly subject the car to short trips where it never gets up to operating temperature?

Good one

- No test drives. Really, as a seller you actually expect someone to plunk down tens of thousands of dollars without trying the product?

Sure, go to a Vette dealer and ask to drive a Z06.

- Serious enquiries only: What the heck does that even mean?

Bring cash, in $100s.

For the OP, YES it matters. If the car has been racing, it will be under far, far more stress than non-racing.

While PAG does push the racing line, these are Production cars NEVER meant to be raced. Ever. These aren't the 911s of old. The GT cars aren't meant to be raced either. Track Days - sure. But there is a reason their sell Cup Cars and now the Clubsport for racing. Look under a Cup Car and a GT3 and components are DIFFERENT. One is for the street, the other for racing.

So if a car says never been race - and its a production car - I would seriously question WHY they wrote that because it was NEVER intended to be raced.

 

It's another way of saying it's a garage queen and has been pampered. Like low miles, it does help with resale value.

 

I'd take a vehicle that have seen track time, and because of that kept in top shape. You can't run 20 minutes sessions if your car is falling apart left and right. Most likely seeing some of the best engine oil, changed often. Same with brakes, all the diff fluids, etc.

Much rather track than daily driven through snowy winters.

Most ideal is garage queens of course.

 

I'd take a vehicle that have seen track time, and because of that kept in top shape. You can't run 20 minutes sessions if your car is falling apart left and right. Most likely seeing some of the best engine oil, changed often. Same with brakes, all the diff fluids, etc.

What you are saying sounds good in theory but it isn't necessarily the truth. I spent five years as a Corner Captain in SCCA/IMSA racing. I pulled cars out of ditches and I put out a fire or two. In the process I put my hands on hundreds of race cars. I got real close to the cars and if you get up close you will see that race cars get used hard. I even saw a few cars that I would call "racing junk" . . . safe racing junk but junk just the same.

I would stay away from cars that had been raced but that's just me. :cheers:

 

What racing?

 

I was assuming we r talking occasional track days. Summer weekend warriors. Metal to metal racing of course an entirely different thing.

 

If we are talking about an occasional track day then I wouldn't be too concerned . . . but I don't personally think that a track day is racing. I have done track days of several of my motorcycles but that was not racing . . . not even close. Yes, I was riding faster than I would ride on U.S. roads but I wasn't racing. (I have ridden a bike at over 140 mph on the Autobahn.)