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2017 Porsche 718 Cayman First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

Interesting conclusion: "While we mourn the passing of the six-cylinder engine, we acknowledge that the regular 718 Cayman offers generous compensation with its extra performance; it feels like a more sizable upgrade than the new Cayman S does over its predecessor. While U.S. Cayman buyers have tended to presume that the S is better, with the majority previously going for either it or the GTS, the basic car now feels close enough on everything except on-track performance to make us doubt the value of the S’s $12,400 hit to the wallet. This feels like the smarter choice."
 
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The first white 718 CS I've seen, oh my its a thing of beauty! also a sensible option to have the badge painted in black.

asolare said:
2017 Porsche 718 Cayman First Drive ? Review ? Car and Driver

Interesting conclusion: "While we mourn the passing of the six-cylinder engine, we acknowledge that the regular 718 Cayman offers generous compensation with its extra performance; it feels like a more sizable upgrade than the new Cayman S does over its predecessor. While U.S. Cayman buyers have tended to presume that the S is better, with the majority previously going for either it or the GTS, the basic car now feels close enough on everything except on-track performance to make us doubt the value of the S’s $12,400 hit to the wallet. This feels like the smarter choice."
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Koturban said:
A Four-Cylinder Porsche Boxster Is Not the Sign of the Apocalypse
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This is an interesting quote from the article:

You might fairly wonder why Porsche is taking such dramatic measures and risking so much to improve fuel economy (and, make no mistake, it's all about fuel economy) in a $60,000 sports car that's already rated at 32 mpg on the highway. The answer hides in the weeds of Federal fuel economy regulations. New CAFE requirements make few exceptions for sports cars or luxury cars. They do, however, take into account a car's size. As in, smaller cars face a higher standard.

Low-volume sports cars don't cause too many headaches in massive companies like GM or Toyota, which sell millions of more efficient cars and crossovers. But Porsche is hitched to Volkswagen. Even before dieselgate, Volkswagen was selling too few Golfs, Jettas, and Passats in the United States to offset Porsche the way that, say, the Prius and Corolla offset the Lexus RCF. (And don't forget Audi, Bentley, and Lamborghini also contribute to VW's CAFE number). So, Porsche has to carry much of its own weight.

It's no wonder that when the EPA sought automakers' comments prior to passing the tougher new standards, Porsche responded—to an official regulatory document, no less—with a hissy fit:

"While we do not believe that it is the intent of EPA/DOT to make Porsche the world's most fuel efficient passenger car manufacturer or to punish Porsche, this is the consequence of the footprint-based concept."
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Weird! I don't thing the turbo is down there...


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I drove a 718 and a 718S at the local launch yesterday; Impressions:

718S Manual
Likes--lots of TQ/power, the good basic looks of the 981, handling with stock suspension on 20" rims seemed fine. Essentially a faster 981S with more TQ.
Dislikes---the exhaust. I can deal with an exhaust system that sounds like an aftermarket system for the WRX--the stock system does sound like one--but the pops and clatter noises that occur coming off the throttle are way too loud and get tiresome after a while--especially with the manual transmission when you get into the rev range.
Porsche has a reputation of building very sophisticated automobiles and the clatter coming out of the exhaust system better fits a modified "ricer" turbo on the streets than a German car from Stuttgart.
My thought after the drive-and again the 718S is a fun car to drive save the exhaust noise--they would have been better suited to put on a quieter system rather than a noise maker. We have a Mustang Eoboost manual and the stock exhaust is quiet to a fault, but I prefer that to the 718S conjured noise that seem out of character with the car.

Last--while doing some spirited driving in the 718S (with outside temps in the low 90's) the oil temp was nearly 250deg.F, even with sport mode on. 250 deg F. is the highest temp i've seen on the track in the 981 even on hot days. It made me wonder how hot this engine might get on the track.

718 base w/PDK
A disappointment; $74k sticker, the regular launch car options and this car seemed way down on power compared to the S. I tried auto, manual, sport mode on both and it seemed sluggish compared to the S. Could have be the high ambient temps but this car did nothing for me. I've driven both the 981 2.7 l with manual and PDK and they both seemed more responsive than this car. For $74K, I'd be looking at different car.

BTW, the exhaust was a bit quieter than the S but sounded just like an air-cooled VW bug at idle.
 
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Wow, must have been something wrong with your BASE car. I don't see how you could be disappointed with a car that does a 4.5 second 0-60. I think driving the S clouded your judgment. As for the 981 being more responsive...I have also driven base 981s and they are dog sluggish...I just don't see how you came up with that. Must have been something wrong with the BASE you were driving.
 
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Depends on how you drive it, what kind of mode you have the transmission on, and in a manual, if you rev. it up before engaging the gear. I own a 4 cyl turbo now , and have owned a 6 cyl. twin turbo. There is ALWAYS, turbo lag. You can minimize it by using certain strategies, but there is always turbo lag because you are using a "turbo". If anybody says there is no "tubo lag" on any turbocharged car, they are being disingenuous, if they say it is greatly minimized, I could go along with that.

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Chris Harris says Ferrari has eliminated Turbo lag in the 488, and Ferrari themselves claims the 488 is about 0.1 seconds slower to deliver power to the rear wheels than the 458 was - but of course, it delivers a lot more which makes that hard to discern.

Chris also wrote an interesting opinion piece discussing why manufacturers are spending so much to hide turbo lag when they may be better off (in road cars at least) in leaving lag alone - setting up a car so that it has a huge peak of power that comes on late. I remember one down side some drivers felt with the NSX was it has a very flat torque curve, and even though it was an early VTEC car, unlike other (lesser) Honda's, the activation of VTEC was barely noticeable when driving. They missed that feeling VTEC kick in when revving. So perhaps turbo lag isn't a bad thing if you are looking for drama in your car.
 
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This is so true. My 228i has a little lag, but it does to really bother me the way I drive it. You have to learn how to drive a turbo to make it a non factor. I have owned NA cars that had terrible throttle lag because of the fly by wire throttle. You quickly learn how to drive it and adjust your throttle inputs to get past it and make it less of an issue. At first its a little unsettling.
 
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