[K-Man S]

Re: The Worst Review of any Porsche I've read

Agreed. And I inadvertently clicked the "like" symbol on that post, too. I guess there's no way to "unlike" a post. :wall:

If you click the like icon you can after 5 seconds click it again to unlike something. As Hassaan has said no politics people! TIA!

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[K-Man S]

Re: The Worst Review of any Porsche I've read

Lies damn lies and sales statistics! Porsche doesn't release enough detail about their model sales anymore to make any conjectures very meaningful. I don't think you can make any sort of substantive argument about 718 sales until you have at least a full model years worth of sales to look at and even that is only a single data point. Look how much 987 sales changed from intro until the end of the run, some of that was customer demand driven and some of that was Porsche choosing to build fewer cars for its own reasons, so again the numbers alone don't tell the whole story so try not to get too wrapped up in them...

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[K-Man S]

What?! How did I miss those in the configurator? And I thought leather vent slats were cool...

I found the burlwood and engraved sports needles particularly attractive... never seen a burl tree before, I imagine them to be burly...

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[K-Man S]

I re-opened this topic thread, not because I disagree with anything that was said in particular, but I didn't really see people getting out of hand in recent posts. This topic should remain focused on automotive journalistic reviews of the 718 AND what our members think of these reviews (agree or disagree with them). As long as members can do that in a civil fashion and not come in here just to bash the 718 or to bash someone who is buying/bought one, then we should be fine. I think there is still some interesting discussion to be had about how the car was perceived initially, and perhaps how that perception is changing as more cars are sold and more people are driving them. For example, I think it would be interesting to know whether or not Porsche has ramped up its positive spin on the 718 platform after some initial reviews weren't glowing. I think it is also interesting to compare how different sources may have changed or may have stayed the same in their reviews of the car. For example, if anything remotely negative about Porsche ever appears in Panorama magazine it is quickly "adjusted" by the powers that be since Porsche has such heavy influence over its content. A publication like EVO that might be less so.

As a former industry analyst I faced this problem on multiple occasions. We'd have a big client, let's say Google, who subscribed to our services and thus was a source of revenue for the analyst firm. If I'd publish something that Google perceived to be negative about one of their products then some in management would get in a tizzy for fear that Google would cancel their subscription or cancel supporting our annual conference, etc. What I was always very clear about was that if I made a factual mistake in one of my articles I would gladly correct it, but if it was simply my opinion then I wasn't changing it unless facts/situations changed that caused me to change my opinion. Usually a vendor such as Google could understand that and we didn't run into any problems, not that there weren't instances of where they'd want me to "tone it down some" or "adjust the colorful language" etc. etc. A really smart and sharp woman I met in analyst relations understood that it wasn't about the money but about building a relationship with the analysts. For example, if I had been critical of Microsoft's mobile phone initiative that Microsoft would bring me in early for round 2 of the product and solicit my feedback so at least it felt like the company was listening to what I had to say. Analysts respond much more positively to being included and listened to than they do to being bullied or bribed. That's always been one of my beefs with Porsche in that their media relations people DON'T establish relationships with any media people except the mainstream ones and ones that they believe they can control through advertising dollars, club control, etc. etc. So unless I know the person writing the article personally, or I was there when the test was done or the cars were driven, I tend to disregard 90+% of anything written about Porsche cars.

I would MUCH RATHER listen to the opinions of people here who have their foot on the pedals and aren't beholden to Porsche or anyone in forming their own opinions. That means I see crazy stuff posted here from time to time, but that's OK, because if I didn't, then I'd wonder who was controlling the content here just like it is controlled at most major publications and media sources that write about Porsche. Since I love reading your opinions so much, I'm also going to re-open this topic for that reason too!

 

[K-Man S]

Ice, electric, Mr. Fusion, it's all the same to me.

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[K-Man S]

Egads the 718 isn't doing well, I hope that sales pick up asap!

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